#meta 2022-09-09

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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-09-09.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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tantek.com deleted /events/test "content was: " '''<dfn>events/test</dfn>''' was an IndieWeb meetup on Zoom held on . * https://etherpad.indieweb.org/HWC...", and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Cali.jamesg.blog|Cali.jamesg.blog]]" ([[User talk:Cali.jamesg.blog|talk]])"
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capjamesg [tantek]++ thank you! I forgot to delete that page.
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Loqi [tantek] has 24 karma in this channel over the last year (74 in all channels)
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capjamesg The newsletter looks good today.
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@ThatPaddedChar Can anyone using #indieweb explain to me the plurality principle? Doesn’t plurality in implementations require singularity in interfaces (standards)? Can there be plurality in standards? (twitter.com/_/status/1568202417313058818)
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@BillSeitz ↩️ Or maybe author in different tool, then publish to Twitter? #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1568227641085280256)
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@molly0xFFF ↩️ and also @web3isgreat@indieweb.social (twitter.com/_/status/1568252656212393992)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-09-09.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-09-09.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-09-09.html
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[tantek]4 capjamesg, who took the photo for HWC London this week?
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-09-09.html
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@artlung Economic incentives created comments like this in Instagram and it points out how hustle culture and influencer culture are demeaning. I want to share photos with people who’d like to see my photos. My indieweb blogging ethos is intact. I have no idea how to fix this ecosystem. (twitter.com/_/status/1568276543415398405)
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[tantek]4 ^ I report all those comments as spam and block the accounts
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[tantek]4 Instagram << Criticism: design encourages spammy monetization based comments: https://twitter.com/artlung/status/1568276543415398405
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@artlung Economic incentives created comments like this in Instagram and it points out how hustle culture and influencer culture are demeaning. I want to share photos with people who’d like to see my photos. My indieweb blogging ethos is intact. I have no idea how to fix this ecosystem. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FcOjM9maMAEErJ6.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1568276543415398405)
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Loqi ok, I added "Criticism: design encourages spammy monetization based comments: https://twitter.com/artlung/status/1568276543415398405" to the "See Also" section of /Instagram https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=83365&oldid=82671
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gRegor what is ticketauth
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Loqi Ticket Auth is an extension to IndieAuth that enables a publisher to send authorization, known as a ticket, that can be redeemed for an access token https://indieweb.org/ticketauth
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-09-09.html
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gregorlove.com edited /2022/Berlin/Schedule (+7) "/* Saturday */ archived sessions, formatting" (view diff)
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capjamesg [tantek] I did! I added it to the events page.
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gRegor !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2022/09/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-uWHdYJqt5Y8G events/2022-09-07-hwc-europe
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cali.jamesg.blog edited /events/2022-09-07-hwc-europe () "(-2931)" (view diff)
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cali-iwc Created https://indieweb.org/events/2022-09-07-hwc-europe. Please review the page to ensure the document is correctly formatted and remove any unnecessary text.
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capjamesg Although I added a direct <img> embed. Perhaps that's not the right way?
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capjamesg gRegor I had already archived that :)
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[tantek]4 lol
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capjamesg :D
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capjamesg Cali should have an "already archived" feature :D
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gRegor hm, needs to check for existence of the wiki page
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capjamesg Yep.
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capjamesg A weekend task!
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gRegor Will revert
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[tantek]4 ^ aaronpk, testimony to the discoverability of the UX to add images to events. From capjamesg: "Although I added a direct <img> embed. Perhaps that's not the right way?"
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capjamesg gRegor If you know Perl you can add the feature: https://github.com/capjamesg/indieweb-etherpad-archiver
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gRegor I usually look at Template:Homebrew_Website_Club and if they're not on there try to archive. I'll double check in the future though :)
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Loqi [capjamesg] indieweb-etherpad-archiver: Perl tool for archiving Etherpad links to the IndieWeb wiki.
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gRegor tries to avoid Perl XD
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aaronpk interesting
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[tantek]4 capjamesg usually after confirming that the Etherpad has been saved, I replace all the notes with a "Archived at: (link to wiki)"
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aaronpk hmm where would you expect an "Add Photo" button
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gRegor This one was, I just hadn't looked at the etherpad
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[tantek]4 capjamesg, but did you add a u-photo to the <img> ?
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[tantek]4 capjamesg, can the !archive bot detect when an Etherpad has already been archived by the presence of something like "Archived" in the first few lines followed by a link to a wiki page for the event?
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gregorlove.com edited /Template:Homebrew_Website_Club (+127) "09-07 HWC" (view diff)
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[tantek]4 is wondering if aaronpk is asking for documentation of existing popular "Add Photo" UIs 👀
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gRegor !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2022/09/homebrew-website-club-pacific-CeFiXRk9m9yr events/2022-09-07-hwc-pacific
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aaronpk i suppose so, but specifically for adding a photo to an existing document that doesn't yet have a photo
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cali.jamesg.blog created /events/2022-09-07-hwc-pacific (+3012) "Created page with " '''<dfn>Homebrew Website Club - Pacific</dfn>''' was an IndieWeb meetup on Zoom held on 2022-09-07. * https://events.indieweb.org/2022/09/homebrew-website-club-pacific-Ce..."" (view diff)
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cali-iwc Created https://indieweb.org/events/2022-09-07-hwc-pacific. Please review the page to ensure the document is correctly formatted and remove any unnecessary text.
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aaronpk maybe an empty "Photos" section with a placeholder photo that is the add photo button?
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Loqi gRegor has 24 karma in this channel over the last year (57 in all channels)
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capjamesg gRegor++
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capjamesg Does Etherpad have an API?
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capjamesg I can add the Archived at: automatically if so.
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[tantek]4 aaronpk, yep, sounds reasonable. Perhaps even as a drag & drop target!
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capjamesg [tantek] It can indeed. I'll add that feature.
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[tantek]4 capjamesg, since cali already gets the contents of the etherpad, it can search the text itself for that accordingly right?
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capjamesg Yep.
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capjamesg Very easily.
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[tantek]4 oh you mean to put the "Archived at:" link there. Hmm, let's keep that manual for now since it's a destructive acction
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-09-09.html
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capjamesg Did you enjoy the upgrade cali-iwc? :D
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capjamesg Let's see...
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capjamesg !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2022/09/homebrew-website-club-pacific-CeFiXRk9m9yr events/2022-09-07-hwc-pacific
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capjamesg Oof. Nope.
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capjamesg Let's try again...
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capjamesg !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2022/09/homebrew-website-club-pacific-CeFiXRk9m9yr events/2022-09-07-hwc-pacific
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cali-iwc A wiki page already exists at the specified URL.
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capjamesg gRegor ^
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capjamesg !archive https://etherpad.indieweb.org/hwcpst-2022-09-07
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cali-iwc A wiki page already exists at the specified URL.
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capjamesg !archive https://etherpad.indieweb.org/hwcpst-2022-09-07 event/test
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cali-iwc A wiki page already exists at the specified URL.
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capjamesg Sorry. Will remove that.
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jamesg.blog deleted /event/test "Page created for testing by accident"
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jamesg.blog deleted /event/test2 "Page created for testing by accident"
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gRegor nice capjamesg++
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capjamesg !archive https://etherpad.indieweb.org/hwcpst-2022-09-07 event/test
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-09-09.html
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capjamesg !archive https://etherpad.indieweb.org/hwcpst-2022-09-07 event/test
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cali-iwc This etherpad has already been archived.
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capjamesg [tantek] ^
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-09-09.html
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[tantek]4 capjamesg++ wow that was fast! well done!
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capjamesg It looks for "Archived to:" in the first five lines of an Etherpad.
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[tantek]4 I'd reduce that to "Archived" as I think I've sometimes just said "Archived:"
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-09-09.html
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capjamesg Done.
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@borghal Now that my site accepts #webmentions, I had to implement "notes" to be able to reply to some of them directly from my site. Things are still a bit iffy, but I'm getting there! #IndieWeb https://borghal.blog/note/2022/09/064800/ (twitter.com/_/status/1568317640170504198)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-09-09.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-09-09.html
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[tantek]4 ^ hmm still no HWC London photo. cc: capjamesg
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-09-09.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-09-09.html
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capjamesg [tantek] Maybe the next draft...
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capjamesg I just followed the Add Photo instructions.
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Loqi [Event Updated] jamesg.blog updated "Sep 7, 2022 7:00pm Homebrew Website Club Europe/London" changed description https://events.indieweb.org/event/404/history/1157/diff
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[tantek]4 capjamesg++
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-09-09.html
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capjamesg There we go! Just in time.
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[tantek]4 Angelo and me double-HWCing it
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angelo and they both went overtime
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-09-09.html
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GWG And I missed them both...darn
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@fluffy ↩️ https://indieweb.org/IndieAuth_Ticket_Auth - I use it to allow feed readers to subscribe to privacy-locked updates on my site (twitter.com/_/status/1568357648407625729)
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-09-09.html (twitter.com/_/status/1568362426210598912)
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