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[aciccarello] I'll be there too once I eat dinner
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Loqi [New Event] david.shanske.com created "Oct 5, 2022 6:00pm Homebrew Website Club - Pacific" https://events.indieweb.org/afbSK46PgGhU
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@chrisamccoy ↩️ ...also, let's all recognize that SV Crypto VC funds needed a new marketing term to pitch LPs away from "crypto" to raise their $B funds so they called it Web3 (taken from the indie web https://indieweb.org/Web_3.0)
I call it the tradable internet. (twitter.com/_/status/1575311598465388544)
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@post_status Love the Webmentions. Be like @cagrimmett! Use Webmention: https://indieweb.org/Webmention #IndieWeb #OpenWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1575508148177506305)
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@newleafjournal Question for WordPress/IndieWeb experts. I have the Webmentions and Semantics Backlinks plugins installed. At the moment I don't actually show the Webmentions because I don't enable comments. However, Mastodon comments (not likes/boosts, but… https://linuxrocks.online/@nafnlj/109083191946591281 (twitter.com/_/status/1575558687694929920)
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# Loqi Obsidian is a free, multi-platform application for writing and maintaining plain text notes (for longevity) as markdown files that provides a modest paid hosting service one can use with a personal-domain https://indieweb.org/Obsidian
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gRegor jacky++ for first /2023-01-01-commitments
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@defnotbeka ↩️ a) p2p is older than indieweb
b) federation is still ultimately centralized and has a loooot of problems
c) what's wrong with p2p? (twitter.com/_/status/1575614254773780480)
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@SoniEx2 ↩️ like, why not use indieweb for inspiration instead? (twitter.com/_/status/1575613946626658304)
# @defnotbeka ↩️ and indieweb has always been hyper concentrated. its kind of unfortunate that it went the route it did, tbh. they couldve done something really interesting but instead its just... twitter plus inter-server distribution :\ (twitter.com/_/status/1575618553054564353)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ in a way, indieweb is p2p? like p2paaS? at least maybe to those who couldn't keep networking up at home (if they were _really_ self-hosting) (twitter.com/_/status/1575617800269221890)
# @SoniEx2 ↩️ why not just run indieweb (blogs) over i2p (p2p)? (twitter.com/_/status/1575620057433923584)
# @defnotbeka ↩️ the actually existing distribution of power and control, and also abuses thereof, on indieweb mirrors standard centralized stuff so well its frightening, given how much people have bought the hype :\ (twitter.com/_/status/1575619050779992064)
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# @defnotbeka ↩️ i am, yes, because its the only relevant aspect of indieweb in the context of the thread that i wrote, as far as i can tell (twitter.com/_/status/1575621219784613888)
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@aaronpk ↩️ you're talking about Mastodon/fediverse specifically, right? because indieweb encompasses a lot more than just that model (twitter.com/_/status/1575620814073843712)
# @aaronpk ↩️ the original mention of indieweb was sufficiently vague that I don't blame you for conflating it with mastodon, but there's a lot more to draw inspiration from than just what mastodon did. for example, i'm not even writing this on twitter, i'm writing it on my own website. (twitter.com/_/status/1575621796488916992)
# @jackyalcine ↩️ I think that framing isn't then placed on the IndieWeb as a whole. There's definitely direct site-to-site engagement. Like I'd like or reply to things on Aaron's site or even RSVP to events that we have coming up. Some people sync commit logs to their… https://jacky.wtf/2022/9/6VLz (twitter.com/_/status/1575621641161379842)
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aaronpk hmm found this http://natdudley.com/blog/twitter-ux-and-bullying/
# @SoniEx2 ↩️ we question whether you're even interested in (discussing/implementing/seeing someone implement) this stuff?
anyway we have come to regret mentioning indieweb in a tweet, we guess. (twitter.com/_/status/1575624294524391424)
# @defnotbeka step 1 to get into the non-corporate indieweb: become a sysadmin or buy managed blog hosting from a major corporate
lol ok anyway (twitter.com/_/status/1575624169688965121)
# @defnotbeka ↩️ i also dont find non-federated indieweb to be satisfactory for a whole variety of reasons too (twitter.com/_/status/1575625739256283136)
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@NoraDotCodes ↩️ fair enough. i guess i don't see the point of criticizing the indieweb for this, then? (twitter.com/_/status/1575630653994909697)