#meta 2022-10-20

2022-10-20 UTC
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GWG
HWC Pacific. Who is in?
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kaja.sknebel.net
edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+10) "update from events.indieweb.org"
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@dustin
↩️ ooo! would love to hear more. What would you be after?
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@dustin
↩️ super interesting, thank you! will read up on this all and will reach out :)
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@chrismessina
↩️ Or support for @bluesky's @ protocol? Dang, bringing back the dream of Flock Browser!!
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Loqi
[New Event] david.shanske.com created "Oct 26, 2022 6:00pm Homebrew Website Club - Pacific" https://events.indieweb.org/NxjohMMScOPi
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@benwerd
↩️ Or (and) ActivityPub, which is a well-supported W3C standard. Dustin - we’re super super happy to help. Let us know how we can. This is already a beautiful product.
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kaja.sknebel.net
edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+166) "update from events.indieweb.org"
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@chrismessina
↩️ I love to know what @t thinks about this conversation as applied to another browser (i.e. @ArcInternet)!
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kaja.sknebel.net
edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (-349) "update from events.indieweb.org"
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kaja.sknebel.net
edited /Template:next-hwc (+0) "update next date from events.indieweb.org"
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jacky
lets hope something comes out of that ^
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[tantek]
👀 do you mean Chris's tweet?
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gregorlove.com
edited /Hemingway_App (+0) "link dfn"
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jacky.wtf
edited /single_point_of_failure (+101) "/* More Examples */ more examples of centralization"
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[aciccarello]
lol, the blocked canal on that SPOF page 😆
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@jgmac1106
↩️ I just downloaded arc and already am enjoying it. The integrated notes and easel is all I have ever wanted. Why we have waited this long. Now if I could publish to my website I think the web would be won.
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Saphire
Arc?
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barnaby
new browser
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[jgmac1106]
I have a .edu email so I could skip the wait
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Saphire
Chromium based?
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[jgmac1106]
I dunno, I just can read and and write in the same place bout all I found in last ten minutes...all I wanted last twenty years
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jacky
Saphire: yeah, I believe
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jacky
the team there is doing some cool stuff with it, can't lie
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Saphire
Wait
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Saphire
...
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jacky
I'm at least glad that web engines are at _that_ point where more people can start playing around with things
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Saphire
They have built in usercss support?
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Saphire
groans
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Saphire
But they branded them
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Saphire
They branded usercss >.<
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barnaby
it is very branded, yes
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barnaby
I’m trying not to be too grouch about it xD
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Saphire
Mac only?
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barnaby
*grouchy
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Saphire
All pictures seem to be from mac
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tantek.com
edited /single_point_of_failure (-3) "move TOC, move page image to top"
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loqi.me
created /Suez_Canal (+36) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]"
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Saphire
[tantek]: oh heh, neat tip about the github redirect. Kinda need to fill my own social hotlinks...
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Saphire
I made one at least, tho! for /fa
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[tantek]
aciccarello you're welcome 🚢
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[tantek]
note that the image is linked to an appropriate citation 🙂
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Saphire
Hm
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Saphire
https://indieweb.org has an annoying blank 1px border around the entire page content
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Saphire
On the .mw-body
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Saphire
Oh dear
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[tantek]
is this on mobile?
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Saphire
Desktop, 1080p
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Saphire
...oh dear that border is load bearing CSS
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Saphire
Because it acts as a separator line for the footer
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barnaby
I get a weird border on indieweb.org too, but only on the left hand side
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Saphire
And it also makes sure the top border down not shift layout because of... some other horrifying hacks
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Saphire
barnaby: that's where it is noticeable and what I refer to, yes
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Saphire
But it's also on the right probably... oh wait no, it probably overflows a bit and is eaten by overflow hidden somewhere? Not sure
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Saphire
OH
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Saphire
It's only on top left and bottom
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Saphire
On top it has special color though, not blue, because... reasons
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Saphire
...no it does not, it is hidden within a negative margin
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Saphire
oh no
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barnaby
probably some deep mediawiki plumbing 🙈
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Saphire
Negative margin is here to make the tabs properly show up on normal wiki pages..
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tantek.com
edited /Posts_about_the_IndieWeb (-46) "dropping explicit h-feed since new mediawiki theme forces h-entry wrapper on everything"
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loqi.me
created /topic_de_jour (+37) "prompted by capjamesg and redirect added by [tantek]"
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[tantek]
we need an xkcd template for embedding xkcd cartoons with alt text
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loqi.me
created /first_name (+405) "prompted by Saphire and dfn added by [tantek]"
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Saphire
One day I'll boot up some kind of auth thing and actually login to the wiki
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Saphire
Somehow, indieweb Wiki ever so slightly bugs me stylistically x3
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barnaby
Saphire: is your github rel-me link not sufficient?
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Saphire
barnaby: I added a bogus/"todo" indieauth endpoint which is preferred one even if it is actually not existing
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barnaby
ah I see
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Saphire
And there's no fallback (which is... good I guess, tbh)
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loqi.me
edited /first_name (+149) "[tantek] added "https://tantek.com/2015/079/b1/dublin-core-application-profiles#firstName" to "See Also""
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Saphire
Should also interlink name and first name
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Saphire
...also, is there a particular reason for using "lower case" instead of "Title Case"?
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barnaby
lololol yes, a website which just says “Moon!” is still a few steps away from being a functional indieauth identity provider xD
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barnaby
translunar.systems is a very cool domain name though
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Saphire
bows
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Saphire
Thanks, I love my little hoard
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Saphire
I also have lunar.exchange and l1.lu
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capjamesg
It is indeed!
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Saphire
...oh god, L1 can also mean lagrange points
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Saphire
ponders
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capjamesg
IndieWeb Utils now has an IndieAuth discovery function. We're in v0.6.0.
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barnaby
nice! capjamesg++
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Loqi
capjamesg has 18 karma in this channel over the last year (97 in all channels)
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[tantek]
lagrange is where I went for sure
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Saphire
Utils? o:
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capjamesg
What is IndieWeb Utils?
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Loqi
IndieWeb Utils is a library that contains a set of building blocks for creating IndieWeb applications in Python https://indieweb.org/IndieWeb_Utils
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Saphire
Ooh
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[tantek]
Saphire, re: >reason for using "lower case" instead of "Title Case"?< you mean on the wiki? because most articles are common nouns not proper nouns?
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vanderven.se martijn
edited /discuss (+237) "/* Join via Matrix */ Add "Having trouble connecting?" links, just as the IRC section has"
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capjamesg
Zegnat++
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Loqi
Zegnat has 4 karma in this channel over the last year (18 in all channels)
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Saphire
I wonder
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Saphire
Is the left-aligned content column somehow better than centered one?
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Saphire
Also full width vs limited width column
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tantek.com
edited /protocol (+323) "expand dfn IndieWeb relevance with links, note errant usage, other contexts"
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tantek.com
edited /site-deaths (+51) "xkcd alt text"
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Saphire
Would be nice if it was also a caption there or so?
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tantek.com
edited /specifications (+114) "XKCD 927 by request, move TOC"
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tantek.com
edited /protocol (+16) "+Webmention"
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gRegor
You mean the wiki theme in general? It needs some tweaks to be current with the MediaWiki Vector 2022 theme for better responsiveness.
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cali.jamesg.blog
created /events/2021-09-29-hwc-americas (+1067) "Created page with " '''<dfn>Homebrew Website Club - The Americas</dfn>''' was an IndieWeb meetup on Zoom held on 2021-09-29. * https://events.indieweb.org/2021/09/homebrew-website-club-the-americas-rznJqoznYNQH * When: 2021-09-29 * Archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/hwc-2021-09-29 HWC Americas 2021-09-29 == Participants == * {{gwg}} * {{tracydurnell}} * benji * {{Benatkin.com}} * {{angelo}} == Notes == * ... add notes https://tracydurnell.com/reading...""
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cali-iwc
Created https://indieweb.org/events/2021-09-29-hwc-americas. Please review the page to ensure the document is correctly formatted and remove any unnecessary text.
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cali.jamesg.blog
created /events/2021-09-29-hwc-europe (+740) "Created page with " '''<dfn>Homebrew Website Club Europe/London</dfn>''' was an IndieWeb meetup on Zoom held on 2021-09-29. * https://events.indieweb.org/2021/09/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-ktjmUZC48G2M * When: 2021-09-29 * Archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/4M0iRaxW HWC Europe/London 29th September 2021 == Participants == * Yousef Amar {{yousefamar}} yousefamar.com * {{calumryan}} * {{gwg}} ** Fun with Flags - https://david.shanske.com/location/gb/...""
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cali-iwc
Created https://indieweb.org/events/2021-09-29-hwc-europe. Please review the page to ensure the document is correctly formatted and remove any unnecessary text.
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cali.jamesg.blog
created /events/2021-09-22-hwc-americas (+1402) "Created page with " '''<dfn>Homebrew Website Club - The Americas</dfn>''' was an IndieWeb meetup on Zoom held on 2021-09-22. * https://events.indieweb.org/2021/09/homebrew-website-club-the-americas-kqZJIdUNTVhj * When: 2021-09-22 * Archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/hwc-2021-09-22 HWC Americas 2021-09-22 == Participants == * {{gwg}} * Maxwell * {{angelo}} * Astrid * Benji * Edward Burns https://ridingthecrest.com/ * Benjeep * {{tracydurnell}} * Ben Atki...""
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cali-iwc
Created https://indieweb.org/events/2021-09-22-hwc-americas. Please review the page to ensure the document is correctly formatted and remove any unnecessary text.
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Saphire
Oh god that's a lot of bot text
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gRegor
Yeah, this channel is mainly to discuss the wiki itself and shows wiki edits
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gRegor
Usually isn't as noisy, I just backfill a month of these at a time occasionally :)
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cali.jamesg.blog
created /events/2021-09-15-hwc-americas (+2091) "Created page with " '''<dfn>Homebrew Website Club - The Americas</dfn>''' was an IndieWeb meetup on Zoom held on 2021-09-15. * https://events.indieweb.org/2021/09/homebrew-website-club-the-americas-G1tAtRdQKOEz * When: 2021-09-15 * Archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/hwc-2021-09-15 HWC Americas 2021-09-15 == Participants == * {{maxwelljoslyn}} * {{angelo}} * Kevin * Benji * Hans Lachman * {{tracydurnell}} * {{astralbijection}} * {{jacobhall.net}} == No...""
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cali-iwc
Created https://indieweb.org/events/2021-09-15-hwc-americas. Please review the page to ensure the document is correctly formatted and remove any unnecessary text.
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cali.jamesg.blog
created /events/2021-09-01-hwc-americas (+4982) "Created page with " '''<dfn>Homebrew Website Club - The Americas</dfn>''' was an IndieWeb meetup on Zoom held on 2021-09-01. * https://events.indieweb.org/2021/09/homebrew-website-club-the-americas-KTJy7nR6Xe8V * When: 2021-09-01 * Archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/hwc-2021-09-01 HWC America 2021-09-01 == Participants == * {{gwg}} * {{angelo}} * {{nsmsn}} * {{maxwelljoslyn}} * {{jacobhall.net}} * {{benatkin}} * {{benji}} == Welcome == New member...""
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cali-iwc
Created https://indieweb.org/events/2021-09-01-hwc-americas. Please review the page to ensure the document is correctly formatted and remove any unnecessary text.
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gRegor
last one. we now returned to our randomly scheduled wiki edits.
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[tantek]
gRegor++
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Loqi
gRegor has 26 karma in this channel over the last year (64 in all channels)
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@jmeowmeow
↩️ But it may happen that an alternative platform may be needed and I guess I should be checking with the IndieWeb folks and maybe Dreamwidth and Matrix and Mastodon and Linen.
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