#meta 2022-11-04

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@JasonTheBirdman
In case the fake founder makes this place unusable I'm @jsspnofthebirdmen@indieweb.social
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Loqi
Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-04.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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@Honesty_Init
↩️ Open standards. The current FediVerse is clearly lacking in usability. Some of the https://indieweb.org/ protocols (MicroPub, MicroSub, WebMentions, IndieAuth) might do. And email-style interoperability would curb most of the deficits of vendor concentration.
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cali.jamesg.blog
created /events/2022-11-02-hwc-europe (+1264) "Created page with " '''<dfn>Homebrew Website Club Europe/London</dfn>''' was an IndieWeb meetup on Zoom held on 2022-11-02. * https://events.indieweb.org/2022/11/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-dnczovO1K7Z0 * When: 2022-11-02 * Archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/HWC_London_Europe_2022-11-02 ------------ HWC London / Europe - 2022-11-02 ------------ == Participants == * {{capjamesg}} * {{omz13}} == Notes == * a brutal and minimal status page: https://...""
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cali-iwc
Created https://indieweb.org/events/2022-11-02-hwc-europe. Please review the page to ensure the document is correctly formatted and remove any unnecessary text.
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gregorlove.com
edited /Template:Homebrew_Website_Club (+37) "+events/2022-11-02-hwc-europe"
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gregorlove.com
edited /consent_screen (+1059) "/* Examples */ ProcessWire IndieAuth Module"
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gregorlove.com
edited /access_token (+540) "+Examples section, ProcessWire IndieAuth with screenshot"
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@JabaliLocazo
Btw si alguien explora el #Fediverse, me pueden encontrar en @alejandro@indieweb.social
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@Cambridgeport90
↩️ Remember that there are lots of options in the fediverse... as well as the Indieweb. PeerTube for videos, Mastodon for toots, though there are others such as miskey, and funkwale for audio posts; podcasts, musical tracks.
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@hunter_owens
finally doing the plex thing because I'm on an indieweb kick and spotify is killing my love of music, send recs for servers
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dougfredericks.net
created /User:Dougfredericks.net (+9) "Created page with "User page""
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@AchimWar
1)I see the bird app is still a game of Hoping He Sees This 2)Taking the opportunity to mass unfollow-if I come back I’ll start fresh. 3)Mastodon is boring you’d be really bored and hate it, even if you’re savvy enough to figure out how to join an instance https://indieweb.social/@micah
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@dandean
Updated mastodon to https://indieweb.social/@dandean, but come on let’s do Tumblr!
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@renesugar
↩️ Another variation ... Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere https://indieweb.org/POSSE
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@Cambridgeport90
Primarily the #Indieweb #dev logs, of which there are some mighty interesting discussions happening. I know something I want to do... you know how there are indieweb components based in Python and Ruby, particularly for usage in CLI based applications?
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@Cambridgeport90
Looking at the #Indieweb chat logs which I seemed to have missed for the past couple of days. I haven't been at work for these past few, so not sure how I missed them. Then again, My energy the past couple of days was in the shitter, so.
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@soapdog
Go #IndieWeb! People of this birdsite, you need to own your own platform. https://indieweb.org/
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Loqi
Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-04.html
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@thispettypace
It's as good a day as any to leave Twitter. The world has bigger problems, but like stopping eating animals, getting off Twitter is clearly the right thing to do and costs me very little. I'll be working over the next week on migrating, prob to Indieweb and Mastadon. Bye.
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Loqi
Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-04.html
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@anomalily
↩️ This is why I have been an adopter of @indiewebcamp principles. Aggregate my social presences into a domain I control.
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@cmohge
I've just created a Mastadon profile. Come find me at https://indieweb.social/web/@cmohge
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[tantek]1
anomalily++
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Loqi
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Loqi
Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-04.html
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[Murray]
Eleventy << Flexibility is a big reason to consider using it: https://ryanccn.dev/posts/why-eleventy/
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Loqi
ok, I added "Flexibility is a big reason to consider using it: https://ryanccn.dev/posts/why-eleventy/" to the "See Also" section of /Eleventy https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=84187&oldid=84154
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@ThatAmyMac
If anyone else wants to follow me on Mastadon here’s my link: https://indieweb.social/@amy Also been trying to make posting to my website easier again and will be doing that more. Own your content! #indieWeb
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[tantek]1
tbh I'm ok with the bump in indieweb.social mentions, it feels like folks who are indieweb-adjacent at least
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Loqi
Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-04.html
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@lucas_gonze
Mighty quiet here these days. Come say hello off-world: https://indieweb.social/@lucasgonze
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Loqi
Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-04.html
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@brianleroux
joined http://cohost.org \\ and def resurrecting my indieweb expores
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Loqi
Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-04.html
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Loqi
Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-04.html
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@matthewcarvery
For those of you on Mastodon, I'm @matthewcarvery@indieweb.social
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@TheLuigiplayer
I'll try out #Mastodon, a twitter alternative. Anyone who also wants to join, can do it via this link: https://indieweb.social/invite/WvEZqT2K Mastodon is seperated in different servers, I've joined indieweb.socal, a community focused on the open and indie web. #gamedev #indiedev #indie
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Loqi
Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-04.html
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@n1vux
↩️ MacroBlogging and MicroBlogging are definitely different, complementary things, that synergize if one follows POSSE . (The Fediverse has MacroBlogging and other-Media options as well>) https://indieweb.org/POSSE
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[tantek]1
what is MacroBlogging?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "MacroBlogging" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "MacroBlogging is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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@JasonTheBirdman
In case the fake founder makes this place unusable I'm @jasonofthebirdmen@indieweb.social
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Loqi
Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-04.html
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@megarush1024
↩️ There's http://a11y.info for accessibility people, http://hacker.town for hackers of all stripes, http://indieweb.social for indieweb folks, http://infosec.exchange for infosec folks. Those are just a few.
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@megarush1024
↩️ Indieweb: http://indieweb.org will give you a thorough explanation, but basically plain old semantic HTML coupled with open standards like webmention and micropub and microformats 2 and owning your own domain and content.
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@SteveStreza
↩️ I have moved on Mastodon to @stevestreza@indieweb.social. As a reminder, like email you don't have to be on the same server as someone else. https://indieweb.social/@stevestreza https://twitter.com/SteveStreza/status/1585819105067937792
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@x0_1372
↩️ What is indieweb? Never heard of it. I don't think I'd classify myself a hacker.
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gRegor
Fixed the duplicate HWC europe in the newsletter
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@megarush1024
↩️ Indieweb is the alternative I prefer but I think fediverse is a good middle-of-road between walled garden and wide-open web.
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Loqi
Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-04.html
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@markjgardner
↩️ Earlier in this thread, I pointed out one way blogging (or more generally the IndieWeb movement) has moved forward to incorporate the variety of social media interactions people have been enjoying, without the compromises of services that reduce your control and agency.
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@mxbck
I've been planning my IndieWeb escape for a while. I will still be around for the time being, but you can always fi… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1588617276026400768
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Loqi
Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-04.html
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[tantek]1
is 🐘 the Mastodon emoji?
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[tantek]1
was the context that who was it was asking about an emoji for IndieWeb, GWG?
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[tantek]1
the Americas globe 🌎 is not the best for "website" IMO
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[tantek]1
I prefer the grid globe 🌐 which also looks more web-like
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@mattchamlee
↩️ Also at the same name on http://twit.social and http://indieweb.social where i have more targeted interactions/conversations.
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[tantek]1
if only there were a cartoony @-@ as an emoji we could use instead
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barnaby
there’s a ligature one which displays as spiral eyes 😵‍💫
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barnaby
doesn’t work on my old OS though
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[tantek]1
hah that's pretty funny
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[tantek]1
or there's the webfinger logo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebFinger
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[tantek]1
hey aaronpk, is there a CC0/CC-SA IndieAuth logo that we could add to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IndieAuth ?
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[tantek]1
I suppose we should add an IndieAuth logo here first: https://indieweb.org/IndieAuth 🙂
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Loqi
Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-04.html
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[schmarty]1
omg the webfinger logo 😂
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GWG
Who asked about an emoji for indieweb?
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[tantek]1
I thought that was you GWG
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GWG
No, I said we need a logo for each of the protocols
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Loqi
[[KevinMarks]1] Should we pick an emoji to put in twitter name to link to our personal sites?
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[tantek]1
lol I just asked Google: what's the closest animal to a Star Wars At-At walker
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barnaby
IIRC the production staff referred to AT-STs as “chicken walkers”
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[tantek]1
hah: "Even though the real-life AT-AT Walkers used by the production crew were quite small, the team still had to rely on a large animal to figure out how to model the machine’s movements. To do this, they brought a fully-grown African elephant to the studio and recorded its footsteps."
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[tantek]1
elephant -> Star Wars AT-AT -> @-@ style addresses -> Mastodon -> 🐘 .... full circle
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barnaby
the mastodon -> @@ -> AT-AT -> elephant connection is a very funny coincidence though
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[tantek]1
how does one "tweet" a circle
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[schmarty]1
!meme one does not simply tweet a circle
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[schmarty]1
(says a prayer for Loqi)
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[tantek]1
that LoTR FoTR scene is ruined for me now because of that meme
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Loqi
Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-04.html
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[tantek]1
that key hole in a triangle logo looks pretty cool for IndieAuth: https://indieweb.org/graphics#Illustrations_and_Sketch_Notes — WDYT aaronpk?
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@HongPong
↩️ i was at an indieweb meetup at MIT and TBL turned up and took a burrito -- i ended up having that giant chipotle fabric bag for years till a road trip this summer
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@slowtech2000
Haven't a Scoobie yet about Mastodon but (re)made my profile back in April ready to move: @slowtech2000@indieweb.so… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1588634448123531265
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[tantek]1
what is a Scoobie
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "Scoobie" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Scoobie is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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aaronpk
Needs some work still
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@bd
↩️ i'd be elated if could actually use something attached to my own domain, where i can move any time, like a goddamn website. ...but i very much doubt mastodon and the indiewebcamp plumbing from a decade ago it's built atop is the future.
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@fluffy
↩️ Also as much as I think Mastodon and Cohost are better than Twitter, as always I will evangelize running your own website using an IndieWeb basis. WordPress+IndieWeb plugin, http://micro.blog, etc. are all very good options for publishing, and there are SO MANY reader apps.
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@ChrisAldrich
A great thread. Though why not use the web as your platform? @MicroDotBlog can do the work to help you own your identity & data, and as @EthanZ suggests it will also allow you to crosspost to both Twitter & Mastodon to stay in touch with the people you chose. #IndieWeb #FTW
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@fluffy
Not that this is new news, but if you want to follow me off Twitter, you have options: • RSS reader → https://beesbuzz.biz/ • Mastodon → https://plush.city/@fluffy (social) or https://indieweb.social/@fluffy (mostly crossposts for folks who can't see plush․city for whatever reason)
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Loqi
Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-04.html
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Loqi
Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-04.html
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@crockoftime
↩️ I think Mastodon is great but it's not easy for most folks due to its federated nature. I like it as an open-source and indieweb enthusiast, but I don't think it's a replacement.
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@Coty
If you’re thinking about moving to @joinmastodon, consider that there are many interesting servers to choose from. I’d created my account on http://mastodon.social years ago. Today I might look at others: http://infosec.exchange http://indieweb.social http://dair-community.social
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gRegor
gives Loqi a wiki edit
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Loqi
enjoys the wiki edit
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gRegor
Just gonna quietly eat those, huh?
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gRegor
May not be working? Edit to /identity-elsewhere
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gRegor
and my User page didn't show up
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gRegor
what is identity elsewhere
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Loqi
IndieWeb sites often have a section on their home page that lists links to profile pages on social network silos and other forms of identity elsewhere https://indieweb.org/identity-elsewhere
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barnaby
gRegor: were they marked as minor edits? I think Loqi doesn’t post those
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gRegor
pretty sure not. The user page one definitely wasn't
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gRegor
It's Friday, maybe he's kicking back and relaxing
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barnaby
Loqi’s probably busy putting the newsletter together
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gRegor
what is 👏
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Loqi
A tip is a small amount of money given to a person to show appreciation for a service they have provided; on the IndieWeb, a site can have a tip page for others to show appreciation for it, and for individuals to have a simple URL to share for others to tip them, like for technical help provided without an explicit payment request https://indieweb.org/%F0%9F%91%8F
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gRegor
/clapback got me curious. That probably makes more sense^.
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[tantek]1
applause seemed more appropriate to that emoji
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gRegor
Agreed
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@mrejfox
May the era of indieweb reign supreme
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@caringerel
↩️ I think you have to type in the person's entire handle with all the @s and everything. What's the rest of your handle after indieweb...?
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@aaronbieber
Once again, I'm on Mastodon, if you want to find me there. @aaronbieber@indieweb.social (nerd shit) @aaronbieber@mastodon.art (art shit) @aaronbieber@pixelfed.social (more art shit) If you're on it, drop me your name so I can follow you there too!
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