#meta 2022-11-25

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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-25.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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mattstine.com created /User:Mattstine.com (+62) "Created page with "<span class="h-card">[https://mattstine.com Matt Stine]</span>"" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /indieweb.social (+471) "add FAQ / Is this associated with IndieWeb based on text from Tim Chambers" (view diff)
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alethgueguen.com created /User:Alethgueguen.com (+314) "Created page with "Aleth Gueguen [https://alethgueguen.com alethgueguen.com] [https://logistiquevelo.fr logistiquevelo.fr (fr) base de données de la logistique urbaine décarbonée et socialement responsable ] [https://navjournal.eu navjournal.eu offline first PWA for sailors] [https://gdpr4saas.eu GDPR for Saas companies]"" (view diff)
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tiim.ch created /User:Tiim.ch (+483) "Created page with "{{Infobox person |name = Tim Bachmann |url = https://tiim.ch |chatname = tiim |photo_url = https://github.com/Tiim.png }} Hi, I'm Tim Bachmann, I am currently a CS master student in Basel, Switzerland. == Projects == === IndieGo === Since learning of the [[IndieWeb]] I modified the little webserver that powered the commenting system of my personal website to support the following standards: * receiving [[webmentions]] * sending [[webmentions]] * [[IndieAuth]] * mi..."" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-25.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-25.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-25.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-25.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-25.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-25.html
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[chrisaldrich] directory << https://ooh.directory/
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Loqi ok, I added "https://ooh.directory/" to the "See Also" section of /directory https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=84641&oldid=79794
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-25.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-25.html
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capjamesg aaronpk GWG [tantek] Can we set a proposed time for a microformats roundtable?
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GWG capjamesg: I'm always up for a roundtable
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[tantek] capjamesg, it's going to be challenging to do in EoY holiday times. might be better to think about how we might setup a monthly instance starting in the new year
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[tantek] if we actually do find time to do a one-off in the remainder of this year, that would be amazing
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tantek.com edited /subdomain (+247) "Service Examples / Former service subdomain examples" (view diff)
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capjamesg I'm free any weekend pretty much, so long as the time is not after 12pm PT.
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capjamesg Re: next year, how about the last Sunday of the month at 9/10am PT?
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barnaby that’d be 19:00 CET, which is not ideal for me as I am almost always busy on Sunday evenings
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capjamesg What day(s) are best for you barnaby?
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barnaby hmm Sunday is the only weekday where I’m almost always busy with something, otherwise I’m very flexible
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capjamesg Saturday would work.
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[tantek] and Saturdays are almost always busy for me
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capjamesg How about Friday?
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[tantek] Fridays are better for me yeah
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-25.html
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GWG I'm taking off the 2,9, and 16th
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GWG if that helps
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capjamesg December?
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capjamesg Those are all Thursdays :D
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[tantek] GWG, what helps is folks adding their prefs / not-prefs to e.g. https://indieweb.org/2022/Pop-ups/Sessions#Dates so we don't depend on hunting through chat archives or only privilege those who happen to be on chat all the time
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capjamesg +1
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capjamesg Have we considered something like Doodle?
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jamesg.blog edited /2022/Pop-ups/Sessions (+118) "/* Dates */" (view diff)
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[tantek] pretty sure I already provided feedback for why Doodle is crap for community-based organizing
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-25.html
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GWG Those are Fridays, aren't they?
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capjamesg Ah, I was looking at the wrong month. Apologies.
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capjamesg Can youa dd to the wiki?
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capjamesg *add
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[tantek] Doodle << Criticism: Bad for any kind of community organizing. Doodle is better suited to corporate hierarchies where one person is in charge of determining the set of possible dates. For community organizing you want "anyone" to be able to suggest dates, adjust suggestions, etc. A community can also use more nuanced date preferences, with arbitrary commentary about the relative (in)convenience of specific dates. A wiki page / list
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[tantek] of dates on a page/section are better suited than Doodle for all of these use-cases.
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Loqi ok, I added "Criticism: Bad for any kind of community organizing. Doodle is better suited to corporate hierarchies where one person is in charge of determining the set of possible dates. For community organizing you want "anyone" to be able to suggest dates, adjust suggestions, etc. A community can also use more nuanced date preferences, with arbitrary commentary about the relative (in)convenience of specific dates. A wiki page / list" to the "See Also" section of /Doodle https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=84647&oldid=62634
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tantek.com edited /Doodle (+85) "finish criticism" (view diff)
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /2022/Pop-ups/Sessions (+83) "/* Dates */" (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /2022/Pop-ups/Sessions (+186) "/* Dates */" (view diff)
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GWG Is that enough detail?
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tantek.com edited /Doodle (+370) "Criticism, poor for community organizing, Doodle is not lighweight lol, JS heavy, privacy-invasive etc, does not "figure it out", presents totals" (view diff)
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[tantek] capjamesg, next time someone suggests Doodle for anything IndieWeb/community related: https://indieweb.org/Doodle#Ill-suited_for_community_organizing
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tantek.com edited /2022/Pop-ups/Sessions (+44) "/* Dates */ no SatSun, pref Fridays" (view diff)
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[tantek] https://indieweb.org/2022/Pop-ups/Sessions#Dates is a great example of what Doodle absolutely cannot do
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-25.html
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tantek.com edited /Web_of_trust (+124) "de-link dfn, the "rebooting" conferences are not WoT technology itself, Confused With section" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Web_of_trust (+85) "sometimes PGP specific" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Web_of_trust (+190) "highly technical (AKA don't sent this "users" in any context explaining web or trust), separate a supposed feature (ranking? anyone actually use this?), link to Wikipedia for longer description, note additional links are Technical descriptions, jargon" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-25.html
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[tantek] sad little historical GData stub as our only new article this week
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[tantek] do we have a page where people can request new articles on specific topics? e.g. if they either don't have time or are not sure how to best create a new article or unsure if there should be one but would support it
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sknebel to-do maaaaaybe, not a dedicated one I think?
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sknebel what is to-do?
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Loqi Next steps for IndieWebCamp and IndieWeb efforts https://indieweb.org/to-do
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-25.html
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[chrisaldrich] use case << https://whatever.scalzi.com/2022/11/25/how-to-weave-the-artisan-web/ John Scalzi: "if you’re a writer/artist/musician/other sort of creator, [an artisan, hand-crafted Web is] actually kind of essential"
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Loqi ok, I added "https://whatever.scalzi.com/2022/11/25/how-to-weave-the-artisan-web/ John Scalzi: "if you’re a writer/artist/musician/other sort of creator, [an artisan, hand-crafted Web is] actually kind of essential"" to the "See Also" section of /use_case https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=84656&oldid=79957
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-25.html
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[KevinMarks] Scalzi as fed.brid.gy customer? “Also, I've had folks ask me if I plan to leave mastodon.social because of the possibility of it being defederated because of various issues, and the answer is, I probably won't, all this moving about is exhausting, and if I ever do move it would be to my own personal mastodon instance which I have no interest in creating now. So you might have to do without me if your server defederates mine,
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[KevinMarks] sorry.” https://mastodon.social/@scalzi/109388528224809354
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Loqi [Scalzi] Also, I've had folks ask me if I plan to leave mastodon.social because of the possibility of it being defederated because of various issues, and the answer is, I probably won't, all this moving about is exhausting, and if I ever do move it would be t...
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Loqi [[Micro.blog]] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Micro.blog&diff=1123828758&oldid=prev Xdtp at 22:34, 25 November 2022
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-11-25.html
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[tantek] ok for next week then
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[tantek] what is gift calendar
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "gift calendar" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "gift calendar is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] wat
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tantek.com edited /MediaWiki:Sidebar (+51) "2022 Gift Calendar" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /IndieWeb_Gift_Calendar (+0) "2022" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /2022-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (+4092) "draft 2023 from 2022" (view diff)
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[tantek] just missed the newsletter but there you go!
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tantek.com created /gift_calendar (+44) "r" (view diff)
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[tantek] 6 days until Hey it's the first day of the IndieWeb Gift Calendar 2022! Have you built or shipped or documented something new for the IndieWeb today? Add it! https://indieweb.org/2022-12-indieweb-gift-calendar
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2022-12-01 2:56pm PST (#6996)