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M0x3b0b[m] Hmm. Didn't even occur to me until you commented that I wasn't being consistent with the provided examples. The instructions say to "replace 'yourname' with your name or screen name", and I think my brain just subconsciously translated "screen name" to "username." Otherwise I probably would have spent at least half an hour trying to decide what I wanted to use.
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tantek.com edited /Template:sparkline/doc (+2) ""screen name" really means in effect "chat name"" (view diff)
# M0x3b0b[m] [tantek]: Okay, if that's the intent, then yes, I'd say that's what I found unclear. Step Three is to add myself to chat-names, and Step Four is to set up the sparkline template...er...thing, but I didn't pick up on a connection between the two. My chat name is arguably more likely to change than any other relevant handles, because I might eventually decide the disadvantages that come from which bridge I'm talking through (such as
# M0x3b0b[m] the added "M...[m]") outweigh the satisfaction of using my own Matrix homeserver, but I do want to follow convention, so I'll go take a gander. Thanks. [Tantek]++
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# M0x3b0b[m] <[tantek]> "by convention we tend to drop..." <- I was noticing that the [m] seems to keep the template from parsing. The chat names page says slack users should check the chat logs for the IRC version of their names, and I assumed that would also apply to Matrix, hence `M0x3b0b[m]` instead of `0x3b0b`, since not only am I coming from Matrix but IRC names can't start with a digit. So now I'm even less confident in where my template
# M0x3b0b[m] should be and I have a suspicion I've done my chatname wrong...someday maybe I'll stop making things unnecessarily difficult. I doubt it.
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[tantek] your /chatnames entry should be what it shows up in IRC but without network suffixes or brackets
# M0x3b0b[m] Oh! I think I'd missed a trick.
# M0x3b0b[m] ...maybe. Let me investigate.
# [tantek] and in the archives: https://chat.indieweb.org/meta/2022-12-29#t1672282449388500
# M0x3b0b[m] I'd assume that's because I removed the `[m]` from my entry in the chat names page. The trick I'd missed is that I can actually also tell the bridge service bot what nick to use for me on the IRC bridge, separate from tweaking my Matrix display name. So I could replace that leading M with...something else valid. Like "bw3" or an underscore or something. Or even just go by "bw3" on IRC. The question, of course, is whether I want to.
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bw3.dev created /Template:0x3b0b (+127) "Created page with "<span class="h-card" style="white-space:nowrap">
{{sparkline| https://bw3.dev/static/noicon.png}} [[User:bw3.dev|0x3b0b]]</span>"" (view diff)# bw3.dev deleted /Template:bw3.dev "incorrect understanding of convention"
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Loqi [New Event] david.shanske.com created "Jan 4, 2023 6:00pm Homebrew Website Club - Pacific" https://events.indieweb.org/MKOZpT2yDqpU
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gRegor !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2022/12/indieweb-create-day-DWikudsEYbg3 2022/Create/December
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aaronpk interesting new trademark policy from mastodon, updated last week. now explicitly prohibits you from using "mastodon" or similar looking words in instance domain names https://www.joinmastodon.org/sl/trademark
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# IWDiscordRelay <capjamesg#4492> Curious.
# [tantek] That’s worth noting explicitly along with the tm ownership & enforcement in /Mastodon, especially if folks know dates for these things
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# [tantek] following up on a #indieweb-dev conversation which strayed into #indieweb-meta topic: https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2022-12-23#t1671759351324300
# [tantek] and in effect: https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2022-12-23#t1671759388741300
# [tantek] that is, if something is social media related either specific to a silo or in general, rather than trying to find which of many indieweb use-cases it fits in / overlaps with before documenting it on the appropriate wiki page, we explicitly say that in good faith if something is about or relevant to social media, it likely has some relevance, at least highly adjacent, to the IndieWeb, and thus is appropriate for the wiki?
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[KevinMarks] I think that makes sense for our wiki, as the socialwg one is a lot less maintained. It might be worth bringing some of those entries that assess different sites over
# IWDiscordRelay <capjamesg#4492> Is there a world in which the WG would be rebooted?
# [tantek] capjamesg, if you’re curious how that happens or how you can help make it happen, see: https://www.w3.org/Guide/process/charter.html
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# [tantek] capjamesg, sknebel, barnaby, gRegor, GWG, others recently active here, please take a look and add your opinion: https://indieweb.org/relevant_to_the_IndieWeb_wiki#Expand_silos_to_social_media_in_general
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# [tantek] in digging into the RSS/Atom podcasts question in #indieweb-dev, I found this note in the details of Atom's WP entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_(web_standard)#Initial_work
# [tantek] Even though I was around and following at the time, and I remember the Pie/Atom wiki being kind of a mess (much more so than IndieWeb), I don't remember the reasoning or process by which "discussion was shifted off the wiki" which makes me wonder if that’s a vulnerability (from a community perspective) that we should be aware of
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