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[tantek] ^ aaronpk
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[tantek] what is metadata
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Loqi Metadata is data about data, and a concept too abstract to be useful since in practice it is used to mean so many different things that it is ill-suited for communicating any specific concept, often unnecessary (often just means data), and when used to indicate data about content but apart from content, is often out of date or otherwise wrong or untrustworthy https://indieweb.org/metadata
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[tantek] ^ [KevinMarks], others, please review. Quite appropriate for this channel
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Guest1983 wordpress me come los cojones, y despue meta
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GWG Good crowd at HWC tonight
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (-10) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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Loqi [New Event] david.shanske.com created "Jan 11, 2023 6:00pm Homebrew Website Club - Pacific" https://events.indieweb.org/dzfmmerdOGF0
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gRegor angelo, GWG: does someone need these Apache logs from the etherpad? I was going to remove them
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GWG I'll make a note, one sec
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GWG Have at it
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tantek.com edited /2022-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (-28) "fix link to capjamesg blog post to be to his post, not a wiki edit :)" (view diff)
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> [tantek]++ for doing that!
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> [tantek]++
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Loqi [tantek] has 18 karma in this channel over the last year (77 in all channels)
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> (where "that" = fixing the link to my blog post in the gift calendar)
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[tantek] 👊
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jamesg.blog uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:tmobile.png]]" https://indieweb.org/File:tmobile.png"
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jamesg.blog uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:tdesktop.png]]" https://indieweb.org/File:tdesktop.png"
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jamesg.blog edited /SEO (+520) "Add example of permalinks from Tantek's Tweets showing up in Google" (view diff)
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> [tantek] I finally added this 😄
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IWDiscordRelay <B​lindNerd#6539> Hmm, giving the Discord bridge a try, so not sure how I'll appear compared to my usual IRC connection
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IWDiscordRelay <b​lindnerd#6539> Noticed an odd display error when looking at chat.indieweb.org, so took the capital letters out of my Discord username to hopefully fix that
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gregsplace.net edited /User:Gregsplace.net (+75) "Various edits, added the Plumbing section and renamed Working On section to To-Do List" (view diff)
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gregsplace.net edited /User:Gregsplace.net (+21) "Added which operating system the setup for gregsplace.net runs on/* Plumbing */" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /openRSS (+419) "prompted by starrwulfe and dfn added by starrwulfe" (view diff)
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aaronpk when i click on www.jlg.link it says the name is not resolved. how did they log in to the wiki??
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[tantek] Starrwulfe is that your domain ^ ?
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aaronpk oh they aren't in this channel
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tantek.com edited /timeline (+221) "2014 L Social Web Working Group" (view diff)
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starrwulfe Just made an entry at https://indieweb.org/openrss; please add some examples or expound on it if anyone is inclined...
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starrwulfe what is openrss
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Loqi openRSS is a website run by the OpenRSS foundation https://indieweb.org/openRSS
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starrwulfe didn't know Loqi only took the first sentence when summoned here.
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starrwulfe what is openrss
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Loqi openRSS is a website run by the OpenRSS foundation providing RSS content for all websites with dynamic content even if there is no RSS feed to surface including YouTube, Twitter, Mastodon, and more https://indieweb.org/openRSS
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starrwulfe Better
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tantek.com edited /timeline (+328) "(D) for discontinued/closed/shutdown e.g. for things that were previously (L)aunched, like SocialWG" (view diff)
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[tantek] I'd like to do a push to research and document more notable things on /timeline — there's a whole bunch of candidates that could use some help with a little bit of hyperspelunking to find specific dates & citations: https://indieweb.org/timeline#Needs_Dates_and_incorporation_above
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[tantek] The sooner we do that, sooner we can celebrate 2023 anniversaries for many more things, and use those anniversaries as good reasons to update pages & discussions on those topics / technologies
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[tantek] consider this a call for community help & participation, pick one thing from that list https://indieweb.org/timeline#Needs_Dates_and_incorporation_above and see if you can look it up and come up with a specific date & citation for that date
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[chrisaldrich] block << https://mastodon.art/@fediblock, a curated #FediBlock account for [[Mastodon]]. https://mastodon.art/@fediblock/109587147788614348
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Loqi ok, I added "https://mastodon.art/@fediblock, a curated #FediBlock account for [[Mastodon]]. https://mastodon.art/@fediblock/109587147788614348" to the "See Also" section of /block https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=85734&oldid=84186
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[tantek] There may be enough /timeline items to document in there to even make it a 100days project. document one notable timeline thing per day and publish a short note about it
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gRegor [tantek] "webmention.rocks test suite completed" would that be the latest test that was added?
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gRegor bc I think that might be 2017-01-27 https://aaronparecki.com/2017/01/27/13/day-38-webmention-rocks
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Loqi [preview] [Aaron Parecki] Day 38: New Sneaky Redirect Test for webmention.rocks #100DaysOfIndieWeb
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gRegor Seems in line with latest w3c rec published 2017-01-12 https://www.w3.org/TR/webmention/
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gRegor The implementation report linked from that goes up through Discovery test 21 though https://webmention.net/implementation-reports/summary/
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gRegor This might be the closest to "first launch" of it, https://aaronparecki.com/2016/04/14/20/webmention-rocks
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Loqi [preview] [Aaron Parecki] Here is my test post for webmention.rocks! Posted using p3k, Webmentions sent by Telegraph using the mention-client-php library. Test 1, Test 2, Test 3, Test 4, Test 5, Test 6, Test 7, Test 8, Test 9, Test 10, Test 11, Test 12, Test 13, Test 14, Tes...
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gRegor So basically, lot of different dates, depends on dfn of "complete" :)
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aaronpk is software ever really complete?
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gRegor indeed
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gRegor It was first linked in this WD, so maybe 2016-04-29 is the best launch date to use on /timeline https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-webmention-20160429/
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gRegor and maybe not worry about "completed"
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[tantek] gRegor the other source for SocialWG related/timeframe stuff is the W3C public-social mailing list where I think things like that were announced
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[tantek] You can also check archive.org for when did webmention.rocks first have non-trivial content that looks like at least one runnable test
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gRegor github commits good for that too
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[tantek] Yes that could be used for when it’s development was started
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[tantek] Darn autocorrect inserting a ’ when I explicitly left it out
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[tantek] The implementation report is a good indicator of which tests were finished to call the test suite “complete”
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[tantek] socialwg << Public mailing list archive (closed) https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-socialweb/
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Loqi ok, I added "Public mailing list archive (closed) https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-socialweb/" to the "See Also" section of /Social_Web_Working_Group https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=85743&oldid=85513
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gRegor !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2022/12/homebrew-website-club-pacific-q7QX1qhEt07U events/2022-12-28-hwc-pacific
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cali.jamesg.blog created /events/2022-12-28-hwc-pacific (+2669) "Created page with " '''<dfn>Homebrew Website Club - Pacific</dfn>''' was an IndieWeb meetup on Zoom held on 2022-12-28. * https://events.indieweb.org/2022/12/homebrew-website-club-pacific-q7QX1qhEt07U * When: 2022-12-28 * Archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2022-12-28-hwc-pacific HWC Pacific 2022-12-28 == Participants == * {{GWG}} * {{benji}} * {{angelo}} * {{tracydurnell}} * {{t}} * {{0x3b0b}} *{{tmichellemoore}} == Notes == * ... add notes * https:..."" (view diff)
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gRegor !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2023/01/homebrew-website-club-pacific-MKOZpT2yDqpU events/2023-01-04-hwc-pacific
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cali.jamesg.blog created /events/2023-01-04-hwc-pacific (+1787) "Created page with " '''<dfn>Homebrew Website Club - Pacific</dfn>''' was an IndieWeb meetup on Zoom held on 2023-01-04. * https://events.indieweb.org/2023/01/homebrew-website-club-pacific-MKOZpT2yDqpU * When: 2023-01-04 * Archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2023-01-04-hwc-pacific Homebrew Website Club - Pacific 2023-01-04 == Participants == * JLGatewood/Starrwulfe -- starrwulfe.xyz & jlg.micro.blog * {{gwg}} * {{0x3b0b}} * {{benji}} * Doug Fredericks / dougf..."" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /100_days (+560) "/* Make and create */ 100 days of docs create OR non-trivially update, examples to consider indieweb wiki, W3C wiki, MDN, WIkiMo" (view diff)
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