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waterpigs.co.uk
created /Archive (+20) "Redirected page to [[archive]]"
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loqi.me
created /Archive.org (+29) "prompted by barnaby and redirect added by barnaby"
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tantek.com
edited /Internet_Archive (+305) "/* Trigger an Archive */ / save path working again (as I recall and verified), and noted rate limiting from memory too"
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waterpigs.co.uk
edited /Internet_Archive (+92) "/* Trigger an Archive */ Removed JSON conneg headers which were preventing the simpler API from working, moved simpler API first in document"
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waterpigs.co.uk
edited /Internet_Archive (+62) "/* Simple API */ Fixed grep, removed prompt, added extra context for people who aren’t familiar with the command line"
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gregorlove.com
edited /Internet_Archive (+208) "Retrieve the oldest available version of a URL: merge from Wayback_Machine in preparation for redirect"
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gregorlove.com
edited /Internet_Archive (+180) "include Wayback dfn in intro in preparation for redirect of /Wayback_Machine"
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[tantek]
gRegor, would it be worth its own section so the redirect can go to the specific section?
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gRegor
Maybe. I guess we could move the how to trigger an archive sections under it too?
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[tantek]
nah, Wayback Machine is more the "browsing UI"
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[tantek]
of the archives, where as the "calls" to make the archive are kind of a separate thing
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gRegor
kinda, they're a shortcut for automating the "Save Now" form on the wayback's landing apge
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gRegor
I'm stepping away shortly so can't update /IA, but whatever subsection makes sense
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gRegor
oops, wrong link XD
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aaronpk
oops, zoom is now getting aggressive about cloud recording limits
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aaronpk
i just deleted the berlin recordings since it looks like they were uploaded already
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brandonrozek.com
edited /User:Brandonrozek.com (+589) "Added info box and some comments about syndication"
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GWG
aaronpk: Sorry, was I the one who forgot to delete those?
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[tantek]
do we have a documented procedure for IWC recordings? that ends with delete from Zoom?
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GWG
I think that step is not there
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GWG
It should be under /remote_participation
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Loqi
Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-01-06.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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IWDiscordRelay
<b​lindnerd#6539> Hmm, not quite sure where to ask this, so if this is the wrong place, please direct me to the correct channel. I have an interesting problem... I wanted to create a perfectly sized photo for my sparkline and other locations on the wiki, but being blind, I can't use cropping tools and the like myself. Any suggestions on how to accomplish this?
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tantek.com
edited /Instagram (-1) "typo"
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tantek.com
edited /Instagram (-3) "move TOC down"
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tantek.com
edited /authorship (+78) "link to spec up front for easier discoverability"
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tantek.com
edited /authorship (-5) "copyedit"
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tantek.com
edited /authorship-spec (+103) "add validator"
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IWDiscordRelay
<j​acky#7226> what is microfeed.org
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loqi.me
edited /Portland (+196) "[tantek] added "Brainstorming: consider Sugar Hill PDX as a bar/club for a future IWS pre/after-party https://instagram.com/sugarhillpdx, prev called Circa 33, see aaronpk site search for that" to "See Also""
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Loqi
Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-01-06.html
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Loqi
Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-01-06.html
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Loqi
Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-01-06.html
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[tantek]
New year, new time to ask again what would it take to feel "comfortable" or better "safe" with organizing an IWS this year in June?
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Loqi
Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-01-06.html
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[aciccarello]
What is Elgg?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "Elgg" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Elgg is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[aciccarello]
Elgg is a open source social networking engine that can be installed and customized. IndieWeb features can be added with the [https://github.com/RiverVanRain/indieweb indieweb plugin]. https://elgg.org/
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loqi.me
created /Elgg (+230) "prompted by [aciccarello] and dfn added by [aciccarello]"
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Loqi
[preview] [RiverVanRain] indieweb: IndieWeb integration for Elgg
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[aciccarello]
I figured that should have a page if it is on /friendly
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IWDiscordRelay
<s​tarrwulfe#4969> ⚠️Heads up: matrix is experiencing issues with database and federation at the moment. I get a 502 Bad Gateway error when trying to connect my Matrix client to #../meta right now…
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[aciccarello]
Probably can move some of the notes from /friendly to that stub
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tantek.com
edited /Elgg (+1) "link term"
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loqi.me
edited /Elgg (+49) "[tantek] added "[[content management system]]" to "See Also""
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tantek.com
edited /2013/osfw3c (+4) "/* Ben Werdmuller on idno */ linky"
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tantek.com
edited /Webmention (+8) "/* Elgg */ link to page"
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tantek.com
edited /Webmention (-5) "/* Elgg */ de-dupe"
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tantek.com
edited /Indieweb_for_Education (-15) "/* Elgg */ link to page which has more links"
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[tantek]
aciccarello, yes, go for it, perhaps in a new Elgg#Features section
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www.ciccarello.me
edited /Elgg (+443) "Add plugin info"
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www.ciccarello.me
edited /friendly (-302) "/* Friendly Services */ Update Elgg description. Some content has moved to that page"
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[aciccarello]
I'm wondering if Elgg should even be on /friendly. I don't think the plugin is directly associated with the project is it?
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[aciccarello]
I see benwerd is associated with Elgg. But the plugin author RiverVanRain isn't a big contributor to core (though they do have 12 commits)
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[tantek]
huh yeah if it's not built-in it probably doesn't belong there
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[tantek]
or in a separate section, Friendly with plugins
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[tantek]
which should also have Wordpress and Drupal then
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[tantek]
projects is very different
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[tantek]
CMS is for software, whereas /friendly is for services
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[tantek]
what is friendly
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Loqi
IndieWeb friendly refers to online services interoperating by supporting open formats, protocols, and IndieWeb building-blocks as well as enabling users to transition to their own personal sites, and an implementation guide for social networks to interconnect with the IndieWeb https://indieweb.org/friendly
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Loqi
Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-01-06.html
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[tantek]
ah I see what happened, software without a service version started to creep into /friendly
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www.ciccarello.me
edited /Elgg (+18) "Add CMS category"
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tantek.com
edited /content_management_system (+634) "/* Examples */ move a couple of software-only examples from /friendly to"
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[tantek]
aciccarello it did add it. see the list below that big table
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[aciccarello]
Oh, it's there now. It must have been cached or something. I refreshed several times.
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tantek.com
edited /friendly () "(-514) add top level heads-up about CMS page, move software without service equivalents to CMS"
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www.ciccarello.me
edited /Quick_Start (-15) "fix micro.blog logo link"
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snarfed.org
edited /follow (+804) "following in readers vs follow posts"
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[chrisaldrich]
I search for that page a couple of times a year and never find it on the IWC wiki... hopefully this will save some effort for me 6 months from now...
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Loqi
Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-01-06.html
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[chrisaldrich]
Gwern incidentally has a page on community design that broadly mirrors our chat + wiki pattern creating a ratchet effect for forward progress, though he uses Reddit functionality as his example: https://www.gwern.net/Backstop#internet-community-design
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Loqi
Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-01-06.html
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boffosocko.com
edited /Elgg (+375) "modify definition for immediate indieweb focus; note about founders, see also: education; pagelogo; blockquote; links;"
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tantek.com
edited /community (+110) "finish blockquote"
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tantek.com
edited /community (+28) "emojicon, TOC"
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tantek.com
created /❇️ (+23) "r"
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aaronparecki.com
edited /community (+20) "/* Wiki Users */ 2021 and 2022 updates"
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aaronparecki.com
edited /community (+0) "/* Wiki Users */"
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Loqi
Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-01-06.html
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[chrisaldrich]
Since a handful already had it, I went through all the wiki pages listed on /Micropub/Clients and added [[Category:Micropub Clients]] to those that didn't have it currently.
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[KevinMarks]
Didn't we make an omg.lol page?
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[tantek]
[KevinMarks] you could ask Loqi 🙂
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[KevinMarks]
What is omg.lol?
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Loqi
omg.lol is a platform on which you can build a web presence, offering features like hosting a simple landing page, email forwarding, and URL redirection, and a community around the product https://indieweb.org/omg.lol
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[chrisaldrich]
looks like it was made in October 22
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[KevinMarks]
Ah that's why it's not in This Week
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[chrisaldrich]
you could nudge it up there with some edits... 😉
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[chrisaldrich]
even if its just for the /lulz ...
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gRegor
what is 2023/Pop-ups/Sessions
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Loqi
If you're interested in hosting a 2023 IndieWeb Pop-up Session, use this page to brainstorm or flesh out your event(s), or ask for help in the IndieWeb chat https://indieweb.org/2023/Pop-ups/Sessions
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gRegor
That will look a bit better in the newsletter
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Loqi
Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-01-06.html
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Loqi
Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-01-06.html
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Loqi
Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-01-06.html
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tantek.com
edited /timeline (+65) "/* 2004 */ XFN 1.1 notable for rel=me"
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Loqi
Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-01-06.html
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Loqi
Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-01-06.html
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tantek.com
edited /Internet_Archive (+84) "I'm using the PHP technique"
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Loqi
[chrisaldrich] has 6 karma in this channel over the last year (23 in all channels)
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[tantek]
There are enough that it may be worth curating a Directory of Micropub Clients
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Loqi
Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-01-06.html
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[chrisaldrich]
tantek, what do you mean by a Directory? Is there an example of what you mean?
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Loqi
Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-01-06.html
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[0x3b0b]
<IWDiscordRelay> "<b​lindnerd#6539> Hmm, not quite..." <- The first thought that came to mind for me was Fiverr, second was I'd volunteer if I didn't sixth-guess everything visual I do, third was script a bunch of crops and resizes in GraphicsMagick and then ask someone to pick the best result - which I think is a good representation of how my brain is operating at the moment
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[tantek]
[chrisaldrich] something more curated
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[tantek]
and placed in explicit human-chosen categories by subheading
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[tantek]
I believe I suggested this a few weeks ago, let me see if I can find that description
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Loqi
[preview] [[tantek]] there's also the question of should we keep one big flat client list for ALL Micropub clients, or should we cluster them into "general clients" and "specialty clients" e.g. indiebookclub & Kapowski, and "silo bridging clients" e.g. OwnYourSwarm, and ...
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gRegor
artisinal clients