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david.shanske.com edited /Planning (+24) "/* Nearby 2023 Events */" (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /Planning (+58) "/* Nearby 2023 Events */" (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /Planning (+93) "/* Pop-ups */" (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /Planning (+82) "/* Dusseldorf */" (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /Planning (+29) "/* Summit */" (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /Planning (+46) "/* Berlin */" (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /Planning (+52) "/* Brighton */" (view diff)
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GWG [tantek]: I think I got all the dates you ??ed
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GWG Did I cover enough holidays?
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GWG Do we want an IWC on Flag Day?
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capjamesg Yes!
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GWG If we get 1 IWC with enough notice for me to plan to show up, then I'd like to try to come.
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GWG To cross an ocean I need more notice
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[tantek] how much notice? could you add that into parenthetically after your name for the specific city?
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[tantek] ok GWG I'll bump Brighton into 2023, optimistically. I'll try to sync with [Jeremy_Keith] next month and see if it's a possibility
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tantek.com edited /Planning (-1) "bump Brighton up to 2023 section, optimistically" (view diff)
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GWG [tantek]: I usually like minimum 4, preferably 8 weeks if we can get it. Less than 4 is hard.
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GWG That's for anything overseas.
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[tantek] yep, worth adding that inline on your entries so organizers can keep it in mind
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david.shanske.com edited /Planning (+160) "/* 2023 */" (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /Planning (+70) "/* Dusseldorf */" (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /Planning (+72) "/* Berlin */" (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /Planning (+70) "/* Brighton */" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Planning (+189) "Berlin btconf conflict with W3C TPAC, IWC the weekend before should be ok" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Planning (-56) "move Marc's tweet contents inline, fix some 2022/2023 copypasta" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /share (+364) "/* UI */ iOS, Emoji" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Falcon (+1038) "/* Display Likes Reposts */ split use-cases of displaying counts of responses, from summary of responses, note wm io API docs for client-side counts display" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2022/Create/July (+131) "/* things built */ subheads for people who built things! subsection IndieWebCamps" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Falcon (-249) "/* Working On */ home page photo grid was fixed at 2022 July Create day! https://indieweb.org/2022/Create/July#Tantek" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Falcon (-44) "/* Working On */ bump up Display Likes Reposts to the top since getting so many good responses from Mastodon users via BridgyFed!" (view diff)
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vanderven.se martijn edited /Planning (+98) "/* Dusseldorf */ Happy to volunteer help" (view diff)
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vanderven.se martijn edited /Planning (+98) "/* Berlin */ Happy to volunteer help" (view diff)
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vanderven.se martijn edited /Planning (+31) "/* Brighton */ +interest" (view diff)
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Zegnat There we go, added volunteering comment inline at my interest
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tmichellemoore.com edited /User:Tmichellemoore.com (+4) "/* Itches */" (view diff)
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tmichellemoore.com edited /User:Tmichellemoore.com (+24) "/* Itches */" (view diff)
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tmichellemoore.com edited /User:Tmichellemoore.com (-120) "Updated Itches and Working On" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Planning (+0) "2023 popups" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com created /2022/Berlin/Planning (+1685) "Archived planning" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Planning () "(-1382) /* Berlin 2022 */ Archived to /2022/Berlin/Planning" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2022/Berlin (+5) "/* Reference */ link /2022/Berlin/Planning" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com created /2022/Düsseldorf/Planning (+1728) "Archived planning" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Planning () "(-1415) /* Dusseldorf 2022 */ Archived to /2022/Düsseldorf/Planning" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2022/Düsseldorf (+49) "link to /2022/Düsseldorf/Planning" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Planning (-192) "/* North America East (Online) */ already archived to /2020/East/Planning" (view diff)
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[tantek] gRegor++ thank you for the /Planning gardening!
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Loqi gRegor has 26 karma in this channel over the last year (81 in all channels)
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[tantek] (much more productive than gardening planning 😉 )
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loqi.me created /billion_dollar_typewriter (+43) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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gRegor yw, [tantek]. I was thinking we could flatten some of section 3 there. Past Cities, New Locations, and Reactivate Past Locations could all be subsections of 3 instead of nested like they are now in the TOC.
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gRegor And Potential Cities could be merged with New Locations
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gRegor Sound good?
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[tantek] yeah there's some legacy layers of sediment there
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[tantek] I'd like to distinguish a few aspects
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[tantek] like maybe four groups?
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gRegor Agree should distinguish locations that have had a camp before vs potential. What other aspects?
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[tantek] 1 "recent-ish" locations (i.e. in the 2 years pre-pandemic 😕 )
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gRegor oops, you weren't done
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[tantek] (so they feel "likely" for reactivation)
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[tantek] 2 all other past locations that have had an actual IWC with documentation of results (photos, non-trivial like more than 5 people showing up, demos of things they got built)
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[tantek] 3 aspirational locations pitched by someone in that location who actively expressed interest in co-organizing
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[tantek] 4 aspirational "wish list" locations requested by others like "I'd like to go to an IWC in city X"
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[tantek] these all feel very different in terms of chances of success (decreasing ordered clusters)
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gRegor Agreed, makes sense
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[tantek] so I feel it's more transparent to clearly communicate those different chances, to better set expectations of folks reading the page
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[tantek] also I commented out a bunch of cities because they had like zero interest/comms about them
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[tantek] so maybe this restructuring will help surface those in the "4 wish list" section
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gRegor I can give it a go on a sandbox page
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[tantek] I trust you to do it live
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[tantek] you can also do it incrementally, like first do the first cluster as one edit
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[tantek] review, then the second, etc.
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gRegor for sure
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[tantek] and for the "wishlist" ones, those should include an explicit list of the people who said they would go to one there
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[tantek] if there's any left that don't fit those categories, like of the sort "someone should organize an IWC in this city", then we can delete them. that kind of thing is not helpful to the community
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[tantek] we can bikeshed the names of each cluster
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[tantek] for 1: Restart A Recent City
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[tantek] for 2: Past IWC Cities
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[tantek] for 3: Cities Looking For A Co-organizer
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[tantek] for 4: Cities Folks Would Go To
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[tantek] maybe that?
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[tantek] feel free to reword / shorten
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[tantek] 3 & 4 should be s/Cities/New Cities/
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gRegor [tantek], sounds good. Moving anything with an IWC 2018 or after under Restart a Recent City
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[tantek] sounds good
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[tantek] maybe keep the leftovers in a Leftovers section until we figure out what to do with them
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gregorlove.com edited /Planning (+928) "reorganizing: Restart a Recent City" (view diff)
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gRegor first batch
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[tantek] wow that diff is hard 😭
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gRegor heh, sorry, should I make smaller ones?
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gRegor Add the section in one update, move in other updates?
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[tantek] I mean that page is not conducive to good Media Wiki diffs
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[tantek] even smaller edits show up strangely
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gRegor true
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[tantek] ah, I just realized we should separate the virtual ones
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[tantek] very different constraints
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gRegor nothing should be deleted. Baltimore and NYC were added, rest should have been copied from elsewhere on the list
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gRegor yeah, was wondering about that
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[tantek] London is an odd one there. As it was planned IRL but then went virtual
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[tantek] so technically it's not a past IWC city
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[tantek] let's put London in "3: Cities Looking For A Co-organizer"
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gRegor ok
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gregorlove.com edited /Planning (+498) "reorganizing: Past Cities" (view diff)
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[tantek] these are looking good
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gRegor 5th section for online IWCs?
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gRegor Or are they close enough to popups they could be under one banner?
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[tantek] let's collapse both popups and online into a Virtual or Online heading
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[tantek] maybe just after 2023
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[tantek] WDYT?
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gregorlove.com edited /Planning (+1106) "reorganizing: new sections 3 and 4 before shuffling cities around" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Planning (+0) "/* Planning */ mv London" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Planning (-65) "reorganizing: New Cities Looking for Co-Organizer and New Cities Folks Would Go To" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Planning (+15) "add Online section, mv Online East+West" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Planning (-2) "/* Planning */ mv Online Europe" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Planning (+343) "/* New Cities Folks Would Go To */ mv Seattle and DC from "Potential Cities" Section" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Planning (-407) "/* Potential Cities */ rm Seattle and DC since moved above" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Planning (-36) "merge Amsterdam interest from two sections" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Planning (+418) "/* New Cities Looking For A Co-organizer */ mv London, ON and DFW" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Planning (-284) "mv remaining "Potential Cities" into new section" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Planning (-14) "/* Planning */ mv TODO note into HTML comment, update year for proposed 2023 events" (view diff)
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gRegor phew, done for now
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gRegor I didn't really touch or review the commented out ones. There's probably some info in them that can be merged into the new sections.
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[tantek] ok I'll take a look
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[tantek] thanks for diving in.
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gRegor I didn't add ones back like /Bellingham since that seems like a one-off, no organizers currently there or nearby
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gRegor Can't believe that was almost six years ago