#meta 2023-02-09

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[aciccarello] Looks like it's mentioned in the See Also section, which is getting long. That section could be cleaned up.
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gRegor That should be out official wiki subtitle
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gRegor Did you mean /weebly?
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gRegor Er, /Weebly
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[tantek] do we need a way to search for "longest See Also sections" to prioritize gardening?
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[tantek] (guessing /Twitter /Facebook /web3 in that order)
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[aciccarello] gRegor, I was looking at http://wiby.me/
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ken.fyi edited /User:Ken.fyi (+51) "/* Itches */" (view diff)
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[cleverdevil] waves
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[cleverdevil] Hey folks! Was curious is IWC Palm Springs is still a thing we're interested in doing?
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[aciccarello] I'm still interested but I think we needed someone to step up as organizer
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cleverdevil.io uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:me-sketch-square.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:me-sketch-square.jpg"
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cleverdevil.io edited /User:Cleverdevil.io (-125) (view diff)
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[cleverdevil] So I can potentially host on the 25th, but definitely don't have the bandwidth to do much in the way of organization 🙂
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tracydurnell.com edited /land_acknowledgment (+117) "/* Other Personal Websites */ add example" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+10) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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GWG At HWC, missing jacky, who RSVPed. Maybe next week.
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Loqi [New Event] david.shanske.com created "Feb 15, 2023 6:00pm Homebrew Website Club - Pacific" https://events.indieweb.org/dlMIcRUo5Glt
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www.ciccarello.me edited /search (-335) "Incorporate See Also content" (view diff)
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[aciccarello] Big reorg of that page. Still messy but hopefully better than before.
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gRegor Hm, longer discord messages appear truncated. Not sure if we can work around that? https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2023-02-09#t1675966688646600
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Loqi [preview] [IWDiscordRelay] <f​luffy#8097> I like to build stuff such that the link is stored internally with enough information such that it can be generated as absolute or relative at render time. So internal entry links are just stored as the entry ID and those are prefere...
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[tantek] long Matrix messages at least provide a link to view the rest online right?
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gRegor yeah
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gRegor Don't think that's possible with Discord's setup
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[tantek] Can we document the Discord -> chat character limit (as well as "edits don't edit, they resend a new copy" behavior) in /discuss ?
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[tantek] Would be nice to give Discord users a chance at a heads-up before they do things they are used to working and have expectations violated.
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gRegor Sure
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gRegor Not sure what the effective character limit is though
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gRegor https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc1459 says 512 characters, though also refers to a 512 *byte* buffer for message and commands. The chat message above appears to be 440 characters.
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gRegor Didn't find anything in Libera's FAQs
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gRegor Maybe some discord people can experiment with long messages here :)
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sknebel the effective characterlimit "depends"
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sknebel an IRC message on protocol level is 512 bytes, the overhead is not fixed -> content length is not entirely obvious
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[tantek] test with both 0123456789 repeated, and some "complex" compound emojis repeated
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aaronpk nick length is also included in that IIRC
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[tantek] haha like it used to be in tweet length limits 😂
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sknebel and length of the irc channel
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sknebel and not just nick, but full user id with host etc
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sknebel hence: just trying once is not reliable
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gRegor "please limit messages to 64 characters. That's all the characters anybody would ever need." XD
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[tantek] 28 bytes (largest emoji) if you believe https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15306020
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Loqi [preview] [lifthrasiir] &gt; Most of the emoji are 3-byte Unicode characters. The most recent Emoji standard has 1,182 characters classified as Emoji and 179 of them are in the BMP [1]. Others are encoded as 4 bytes in any UTF encodings. Emoji has been a great way to force ...
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[KevinMarks] Welsh flag emoji is the biggest :flag-wales:
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[KevinMarks] There are some compound family ones that are quite big too
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[tantek] can you say exactly how big? I gave a citation for 28 bytes.
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gRegor HWC Europe didn't happen yesterday, right? https://events.indieweb.org/2023/02/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-j3qwd7aBUlxL
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gRegor Should we mark it cancelled so it (presumably) doesn't show up in /this-week ?
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gRegor Or I guess it could be updated with the correct details for next HWC Europe
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[KevinMarks] It's 7 astral plane characters so 28 bytes too
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[KevinMarks] https://emojipedia.org/flag-wales/
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[KevinMarks] There is also a code defined for the Northern Ireland flag, but they can't agree on one.
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