#meta 2023-11-17

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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-11-17.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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paulrobertlloyd.com edited /Micropub-extensions (+32) "Update implementations of checked property for syndication targets" (view diff)
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paulrobertlloyd.com edited /Micropub-extensions (+32) "Update (and alphabetise) implementations of visibility extension" (view diff)
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paulrobertlloyd.com edited /Micropub-extensions (+48) "Update (and alphabetise) implementations of post-status extension" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-11-17.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-11-17.html
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[jacky] I realize I never asked this before and not sure if there's a procedure for this but do we have a means of "graduating" community projects to be collectively hosted (like paid via what's raised via OC)?
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[jacky] I'm guessing it's more of the "if you can, go ahead but on your own" kinda thing (looking at things like the log searcher, http://brid.gy, etc)
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[jacky] Asking because _if_ something like /commentpara.de was resurrected, that'd be a good on ramp for folks without a site yet to still engage with IndieWeb sites
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[jacky] (and could be built such that once they get a site, those comments could be imported to their site and the parade links turned into redirects that eventually 410)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-11-17.html
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[tantek] [jacky]++ I'd like to explore possibilities like that in general for easier on-ramps to the IndieWeb
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-11-17.html
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[tantek] hmm, two new pages without dfns and we could use one more edited wiki page
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[tantek] [Paul_Robert_Ll]++ for copy/punct improvements on home page. All looks good except I think maybe 1 or 2 uses of & which were serving to more tightly couple words inside phrases that themselves were connected with 'and'. Reviewing now...
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[tantek] hmm, I think our /projects page needs more clean-up and perhaps we need to start better highlighting our /services page from the home page
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[tantek] ooh and /services needs updating too, like hosted Known services have been turned off for a while right?
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[tantek] [bear] still want your offer of help at the top of /services ?
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[tantek] !seen bear
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[tantek] hmm, thought that worked
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[tantek] aaronpk, did you ever add a feature to Loqi for recalling the last time Loqi saw someone say something in a channel?
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[tantek] Maybe I'm thinking of another bot
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[jacky] I think that _might_ be cweske's(?) bot?
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[tantek] what are bots
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Loqi 🤖 robots are automated scripts that crawl, search, or perform requests for information https://indieweb.org/bots
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[tantek] hmm, no evidence there
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[jacky] blast
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-11-17.html
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tantek.com edited /services (+18) "copy edit dfn, comment out bear's offer for help until he confirms he's still around chat and up for it" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /services (+19) "explicit subheading for micro.blog" (view diff)
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[tantek] oh gosh silo .pub has been a lost site for a while and the domain was taken over by someone else 😞
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-11-17.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-11-17.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-11-17.html
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tantek.com edited /services (-218) "drop Known hosted services, been shutdown for a while (no new signups for years), add Wordpress.com official service, copy edit" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /silo.pub (+65) "redo dfn from service to OSS project, note used to be a hosted service too, drop Twitter bc presumably it's not been updated since Twitter's API changes" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /silo.pub (+55) "dfn domain expiration year, squatting" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-11-17.html
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artlung.com edited /Planning (+804) "/* San Diego Brainstorming for December 2023 */" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /lost_sites (+106) "silo.pub abandoned in 2018" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /services (-114) "silo .pub hasn't been a live IndieWeb service for a while" (view diff)
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sknebel Some registrar should add a thing where you can tell them "if this domain expires, email the following people first and offer them to take it over"
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artlung.com edited /Planning (+57) "/* San Diego more venue thoughts */" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /services (+276) "clarify blog hosting, up front about Wordpress.com higher tier needed for IndieWeb plugins" (view diff)
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[tantek] sknebel, that would be a great service, right of first refusal for domain names
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tantek.com edited /Main_Page (-37) "copy edit, simplify a few ands, focus on services & products to setup a site rather than contribute to" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /indielib (+98) "copy edit & link dfn" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-11-17.html
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aaronpk that would be a very good value-add feature for a registrar
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-11-17.html
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tantek.com edited /Planning (+26) "/* San Diego */ bump artlunk to Organizer and note gRegor was volunteered but have not committed to help co-organize :)" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Planning (+392) "/* San Diego */ expand possible December dates to specific weekends, add self, discourage last two weekends due to holidays" (view diff)
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gRegor Is that IWC or an HWC?
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[tantek] IWC!
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gRegor whoa, fast
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[tantek] [Joe_Crawford] has a good suggestion for a venue with outdoor seating that could handle some number of participants
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[tantek] an informal venue to be sure, so no projector, no whiteboard, so we'd have to improvise session planning etc.
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[tantek] gRegor I bumped you to "Volunteered Organizers" to reflect it more accurately but absolutely please move yourself to Organizers if you like! https://indieweb.org/Planning#San_Diego
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gRegor Heh, thanks. No I'm good there. I was going to remove it
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www.ciccarello.me edited /Planning (+175) "/* San Diego */ update aciccarello availability" (view diff)
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gRegor I feel like that was 2019 era
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gRegor Blackmarket Bakery is great, love it. Could be tricky depending on # of people, could be busy for lunch
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[aciccarello] I need to push my friends on when we're getting together for a holiday dinner in case there's a conflict but worst case I'd already be down in San Diego.
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david.shanske.com edited /Planning (+17) "/* San Diego */" (view diff)
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GWG Anyone interested in midweek anytime 12/4-12/7?
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[tantek] [Joe_Crawford], I put you down as primary organizer since making the venue happen is the most critical thing — please note which dates are best for you! https://indieweb.org/Planning#San_Diego
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[tantek] gRegor, yeah feel free, obviously no shame etc.
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[aciccarello] Midweek would be a little harder with work but if we nailed down a date I could probably make it work.
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GWG [aciccarello]: I'll add it to the proposal
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tantek.com edited /Planning (+337) "/* San Diego */ add note to Blackmarket Bakery closing at 4pm, move Better Buzz to maybe not since getting a table there is dicey" (view diff)
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[tantek] Midweek is also harder for me with work meetings
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GWG I know, I want to explore all options.
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gRegor If Blackmarket is the choice, gotta check out the ice cream place around the corner: https://adcgelato.com/
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[tantek] we've typically avoided non-weekend IndieWebCamps because most people have a day job that they must either go to or be available for online, and it's hard when people's attention is split
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david.shanske.com edited /Planning (+98) "/* San Diego */" (view diff)
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GWG I'm willing to try for a weekend.
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-11-17.html
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GWG If we get something working...
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gRegor Is there a Nuremburg HWC photo for the newsletter?
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[tantek] curious if any of the attendees are here in the channel
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aaronpk i saw a photo somewhere
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GWG So, how do I move this SD idea forward?
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gregorlove.com edited /Knot_System (+100) "dfn" (view diff)
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gRegor Ah, it's on https://indieweb.org/events/2023-11-15-homebrew-website-club. I'll add it to Meetable
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gRegor Cool fisheye photo
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gRegor Uploaded, hope that works
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gRegor !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2023/11/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-H8e0ImhSncdo events/2023-11-15-hwc-europe
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cali.jamesg.blog created /events/2023-11-15-hwc-europe (+1522) "Created event page using IndieWeb events / Etherpad archiver" (view diff)
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cali-iwc Created https://indieweb.org/events/2023-11-15-hwc-europe. Please review the page to ensure the document is correctly formatted and remove any unnecessary text.
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gregorlove.com edited /events/2023-11-15-hwc-europe (-154) "cleanup" (view diff)
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Loqi [Event Updated] gregorlove.com updated "Nov 15, 2023 7:00pm Homebrew Website Club Europe/London" changed description "+wiki notes" https://events.indieweb.org/event/543/history/1495/diff
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gregorlove.com edited /Template:Homebrew_Website_Club (+137) "11/15 HWCs" (view diff)
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-11-17.html
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tantek.com edited /Clubhouse (+181) "add IndieWeb relevance, silo, Mumble used instead on IndieWeb, incorporate SAs into article content & new sections" (view diff)
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[tantek] newsletter looks good
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-11-17.html
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tantek.com edited /Homebrew_Website_Club (+6) "/* 🌁 San Francisco */ was" (view diff)
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[tantek] gRegor, any prefs on IWC SD dates? https://indieweb.org/Planning#San_Diego
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[tantek] GWG, I could possibly do a Friday/Saturday IWC (I feel like we have had one like that in the past)
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tantek.com edited /Homebrew_Website_Club (+61) "clean up headings to remove special chars & puncts, typo, minor copy edits" (view diff)
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GWG [tantek]: So, should I add that as a proposal and see what happens?
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[tantek] GWG, yes, for the weekends you prefer, add it in date order as more list items
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david.shanske.com edited /Planning (+132) "/* San Diego */" (view diff)
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GWG I can't do the 1st, I have an eye doctor appointment at 9AM in NY, but the other ones work.
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david.shanske.com edited /Planning (+48) "/* San Diego */" (view diff)
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GWG I could leave after that though and be there for the 2nd.
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GWG Also, made a note, I have a cheap projector if needed.
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GWG I haven't broken out my remote participation equipment in an age.
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GWG Can you reliably do remote participation in an outdoor venue?
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