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[tw2113] i can't claim being a frontend pro these days, but I can tend to manage to get by well enough
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gregorlove.com edited /flexbox (+237) "dfn, blockquote for citation, see also" (view diff)
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gRegor what is flexbox
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Loqi Flexbox (or CSS Flexible Box Layout) is a CSS layout model for aligning and distributing space among items in a container https://indieweb.org/flexbox
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[Joe_Crawford] what is flex
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "flex" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "flex is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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gRegor Second paragraph could still use updates. Content is from 2015 when it was newer
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gRegor flex is /flexbox
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /flex (+20) "prompted by [Joe_Crawford] and redirect added by gRegor" (view diff)
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[Joe_Crawford] hm. not sure I *want* flex to redirect to flexbox. but I could be pursuaded
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[Joe_Crawford] cool
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[Joe_Crawford] 😄
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gRegor Thinking of Macromedia Flex? :D
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[Joe_Crawford] hah! no!
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[Joe_Crawford] But I was thinking about Macromedia Contribute the other day.
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gRegor shivers
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gRegor What were you thinking for /flex?
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[Joe_Crawford] more wondering if anyone would shorten flexbox to flex
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[Joe_Crawford] I mean, `display: flex` is how it's invoked
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gRegor I think I've referred to it as flex before
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lifeofpablo GWG, are you starting the meeting today?
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Loqi lifeofpablo: gRegor left you a message on 2024-03-15 at 9:24pm UTC: Want to add your Docker use/experience to https://indieweb.org/Docker#IndieWeb_Examples?
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gRegor We can always change it if someone creates a new post type to boast about things
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artlung.com edited /flexbox (+25) "/* See Also */" (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /flexbox (+1) "/* See Also */" (view diff)
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gRegor wb to meta chat lifeofpablo :)
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lifeofpablo Thanks, gRegor! I'm glad to be back!
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lifeofpablo I have some missed messages, according to Loqi
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gRegor Look forward to seeing you tonight
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+10) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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Loqi "Homebrew Website Club - Pacific" call ended https://events.indieweb.org/2024/05/homebrew-website-club-pacific-QtQxihZl4SmQ
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (-10) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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GWG No, you said you would. I said I'd be in Europe
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[tantek] flex << to-do: needs IndieWeb-relevance in dfn (IndieWeb is not Wikipedia), and in content
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Loqi ok, I added "to-do: needs IndieWeb-relevance in dfn (IndieWeb is not Wikipedia), and in content" to the "See Also" section of /flexbox https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=94987&oldid=94983
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[tantek] weird, looks like the HWC Global day change didn't refresh in Google Calendar
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[tantek] still shows yesterday for me
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[tantek] how do I debug https://events.indieweb.org/ics/tag/hwc ? when I go to it in a browser I get HTML (which is sensible). how do I say "no, please give me the ICS so I can look at it" without curl etc.?
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[tantek] can anyone check the ICS at https://events.indieweb.org/ics/tag/hwc to see if it has the right date/time for the HWC Global today? I'm not seeing it in Google Calendar, even after removing it (unsubscribing) and re-adding it (subscribing)
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pcarrier [tantek]: That's exactly the kind of situations that make me think that no, content negotiation is not sensible 😦
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pcarrier [edit] [tantek]: That's exactly the kind of situations that make me think that no, content type negotiation is not sensible 😦
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[tantek] conneg-- in honor of [snarfed]. yes pcarrier, not being able to verify/test things is a reason to avoid conneg without some sort of way to say, no really, show me what you are sending other UAs
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Loqi conneg has -1 karma in this channel over the last year (-22 in all channels)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+10) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (-10) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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Loqi "Homebrew Website Club (Global Edition)" call ended https://events.indieweb.org/2024/05/homebrew-website-club-global-edition--gKTB1ieoO1lg
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[capjamesg] !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2024/05/homebrew-website-club-global-edition--gKTB1ieoO1lg events/2024-05-09-hwc-global
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cali-iwc Created https://indieweb.org/events/2024-05-09-hwc-global. Please review the page to ensure the document is correctly formatted and remove any unnecessary text.
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cali.moe created /events/2024-05-09-hwc-global (+2636) "Created event page using IndieWeb events / Etherpad archiver" (view diff)
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jamesg.blog edited /events/2024-05-09-hwc-global (-43) "clean up formatting" (view diff)
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jamesg.blog edited /events/2024-05-09-hwc-global (-161) (view diff)
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www.jeremycherfas.net edited /events/2024-05-09-hwc-global (+46) "/* Participants */ Added myself" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs () "(-529) update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /Template:next-hwc (+0) "update next date from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /WebRTC (+20) "cat jargon" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Category:jargon (+35) "+web4,web5,WebRTC" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /WebRTC (+120) "it's a REC since 2023, stub empty IndieWeb Examples section with CTA" (view diff)
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aaronpk I have not figured out how to get Google calendar to update data in an ics feed
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aaronpk It seems to never update an event it discovers in the ics feed once it sees it once
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[tantek] aaronpk, how does it know it is the "same" event?
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[tantek] are you giving the events unique IDs (a UID: ICS property) or only their permalink URLs ?
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pcarrier Am I missing something?
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pcarrier https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/866577502586273792/1238114101557727303/image.png?ex=663e1b1c&is=663cc99c&hm=5e999b814eaa1643079e88a39c029f4b79147151f1f538d37a1416721a0c66ab&
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[campegg] pcarrier, #indieweb-chat history is not logged—think of it as an off-the-record space
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[tantek] ^ capjamesg, I feel like that's been asked and you have answered that enough times that it belongs in /discuss#FAQ
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aaronpk Should probably add it to the channel topic in Discord since people don't read that far
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capjamesg We say history has been turned off as the first words in the description.
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IWDiscord <c​apjamesg>
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capjamesg https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/866577502586273792/1238117677227053076/Screenshot_2024-05-09_at_14.17.28.png?ex=663e1e71&is=663cccf1&hm=f81c99142bfe238f5557aae6b15c0d411c757ba13a483a95eca6677691a45ef5&
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capjamesg Happy to make more changes.
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aaronpk Maybe "history turned off" isn't clear enough, since that sounds more like a discord setting name than a user-level description
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capjamesg "Messages expire when you refresh the page."?
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aaronpk That's clearer IMO
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capjamesg Changed thusly.
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aaronpk oh and yes I'm setting a "unique ID" property of the event in the ics. Should I just change that ID when the event is updated?
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aaronpk ok just pushed fixes to events.indieweb.org for this and removed conneg from the ics URLs
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pcarrier 💯
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[tantek] aaronpk++ thank you!
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Loqi aaronpk has 42 karma in this channel over the last year (115 in all channels)
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[Joe_Crawford] aaronpk++ gotten multiple feedback in the last few days that the tag-based event calendars on events dot indieweb are important for folks interested in Front End Study Hall... so thanks for that! (whether you implemented all that or are the current caretaker or both I'm so glad it works!)
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aaronpk oh good, glad that is useful!
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[tantek] aaronpk, the fix worked. my gCal has updated (past now, but still) to show the proper HWC Global even for today at 11am CEST
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[tantek] event* for today
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aaronpk oh good
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tantek.com edited /2024/Düsseldorf (+110) "add link to side-event description" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024/Düsseldorf (+17) "/* Remotely */ +Baku" (view diff)
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[tantek] yo if someone wants to create an IndieWeb event after the fact for today's 11ty talks it will show up in the Newsletter!
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[tantek] [schmarty]? https://events.indieweb.org/
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Loqi [New Event] martymcgui.re created "May 9, 2024 11:00am 11ty International Symposium on Making Web Sites Real Good" https://events.indieweb.org/3yXyVxxIyqKQ
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[schmarty] as it is said by loqi, so has it been done.
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[tantek] so good
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tantek.com edited /chat-names (+88) "add tantek.com nickname from Discord" (view diff)
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2024-05-09-11ty-henry-talk-poster.jpeg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2024-05-09-11ty-henry-talk-poster.jpeg"
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[tantek] at least one photo added to the event, so that'll show up for the newsletter
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tantek.com edited /Special:Log/upload () "uploaded a new version of "[[File:2024-05-09-11ty-henry-talk-poster.jpeg]]": Cleaner edits and crop" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /File:2024-05-09-11ty-henry-talk-poster.jpeg (+107) "What happens if I add an image description here" (view diff)
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www.ciccarello.me edited /personal_library (+238) "/* Other Examples */ add Petar Gyurov" (view diff)
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