#meta 2024-05-12

2024-05-12 UTC
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gregorlove.com edited /2024/Düsseldorf/Intros (+12) "format for IWC session vs HWC" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2024/Düsseldorf/WhatWhere (+47) "formatting" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2024/Düsseldorf/Schedule (+6) "/* Saturday */ fix Micropub link, set etherpads archived" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2024/Düsseldorf/ObligatoryPress (-21) "formatting" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2024/Düsseldorf/Books (-4) "formatting" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2024/Düsseldorf/Principles (+20) "formatting" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2024/Düsseldorf/Schedule (+12) "/* Saturday */ set etherpads as archived" (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /Webmention (+166) "/* David Shanske with WordPress plugin */" (view diff)
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[tantek] gRegor++ for all the remote wikifying!
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Loqi gRegor has 55 karma in this channel over the last year (131 in all channels)
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tantek.com edited /2024/Düsseldorf/Schedule (-5) "/* Sunday */ remove one level of list item" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024/Düsseldorf/Schedule (+4) "/* Sunday */ linky" (view diff)
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Loqi [Event Updated] tantek.com updated "May 11 - 12, 2024 IndieWebCamp Düsseldorf 2024" changed location_name, location_address, summary "update venue & address to day 2" https://events.indieweb.org/event/536/history/1707/diff
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tantek.com edited /2024/Düsseldorf/Books (+340) "add links discussed / shown in session, note direct link was responsive in-person in Germany, and blocked validators from attempting to read it, a note and editorial from memory" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /boo (+23) "r" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /👻 (+4) "more commonly associated" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Halloween (+4) "+👻" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /book (-33) "copy edit dfn, improve grammar" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /📕 (+18) "r" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /books (+12) "better for the plural" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /book (+4) "better emojicons for a single book" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /📘 (+18) "r" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /📗 (+18) "r" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /📙 (+18) "r" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /book (+0) "indieweb logo colors emoji" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024/Düsseldorf/Books (+34) "/* See Also */ book, personal library" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /principles (+1071) "Brainstorming: proposed new principle 1: Own your identity" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /principles (+26) "/* Own your identity */ add yourself" (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /principles (+13) "/* Own your identity */" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /microformats.io (-5) "repo is now in microformats org" (view diff)
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[tantek] [pfefferle] see https://indieweb.org/microformats.io
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tantek.com edited /microformats.io (-23) "de-dupe See Also sections" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Template:IndieWebCamp (+10) "distinguish Front End Study Halls by month" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024/Düsseldorf/Principles (+17) "/* See Also */ +principles" (view diff)
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[tantek] Do any organizers (cc: aaronpk, gRegor), especially from mid to late 2010s, remember where we documented our project to update the /principles from being developer-centric to all being user-centric? I know we discussed it at an Organizers Meetup/Summit, and we immediately set about improving a bunch of the principles accordingly, and got about half (maybe a third or a quarter?) way through doing so
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[tantek] [Paul_Robert_Ll] from the /principles edit history, looks like it was the 2018 Organizers Summit where we discussed updating the principles to be more user friendly
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[tantek] !tell pcarrier create a sparkline template for your chat-name! see https://indieweb.org/wikifying#Step_Four:_Add_a_sparkline
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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pcarrier heard ya
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Loqi pcarrier: [tantek] left you a message 1 minute ago: create a sparkline template for your chat-name! see https://indieweb.org/wikifying#Step_Four:_Add_a_sparkline
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[tantek] 👍
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[tantek] [Paul_Robert_Ll] found it: https://indieweb.org/2018/Organizers#IndieWeb_principles_split_and_reorg
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pcarrier quite unclear what to do here, TBH
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[tantek] pcarrier, do the https://indieweb.org/Template:sparkline docs make sense?
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pcarrier nope, I don't understand what a template is, where and how I would use
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tantek.com edited /2024/Düsseldorf/WhatWhere (-4) "sparkline template ref should be chat-name, not domain name" (view diff)
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[tantek] presumably you entered it on ^ that page
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[tantek] or rather, on the Etherpad notes for that session, which then got archived
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[tantek] ... to that page
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pcarrier yeah I wrote {{pcarrier}} because people were writing {{$name}}, but I still have no idea what to put where to provide data for my handle
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[tantek] if you click the red link that will open a create page UI for your sparkline template, then you can follow the instructions on https://indieweb.org/Template:sparkline
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pcarrier.com created /Template:pcarrier (+48) "create sparkline(?)" (view diff)
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pcarrier nope, the template should also have my name, hu
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pcarrier OK, done
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[tantek] pcarrier++ nicely done! it shows up in https://indieweb.org/2024/D%C3%BCsseldorf/WhatWhere#Participants now
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Loqi pcarrier has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (3 in all channels)
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tantek.com edited /2024/Düsseldorf/Intros (-4) "-.com" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024/Düsseldorf/Intros (+81) "subheads for people, drop superfluous Notes heading level / grouping" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024/Düsseldorf/Schedule (-227) "remove breaks to clean up the schedule for viewing after the fact" (view diff)
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[tantek] apparently the IP address(es) of the Niu Tab hotel wifi are blocked from editing Wikipedia, even if you're logged into Wikipedia!
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ramblinggit.com edited /User:Ramblinggit.com (+31) "/* Brad Enslen */" (view diff)
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[tantek] !tell aaronpk it looks like the Etherpad lost the ability to see people's http://IndieWeb.org signed in status and use their domain names as their names, e.g. on https://etherpad.indieweb.org/createday it says "Login to the wiki set your [truncated]" and then a list of "unnamed" participants
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek.com edited /2018/Organizers (+122) "/* Organizers Summit Discussion */ IA link to jgmac post permalink" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /principles (+1215) "/* Brainstorming */ start Methodology brainstorm" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /principles (+23) "/* Methodology */ unquote inaction, comparable to stop energy" (view diff)
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[tantek] ^ [Paul_Robert_Ll] possibly of interest / related to your work: https://indieweb.org/principles#Methodology
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paulrobertlloyd.com created /User:Paulrobertlloyd.com/principles (+4537) "First draft of a proposed reorganisation and rewriting of the IndieWeb principles" (view diff)
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[Paul_Robert_Ll] [tantek] https://indieweb.org/User:Paulrobertlloyd.com/principles
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tantek.com edited /principles (+169) "/* Methodology */ broadly applicable, user-friendly & accessible" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /principles (+425) "/* Methodology */ short & catchy names, skimmable list" (view diff)
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[tantek] hey remote folks, I've started collecting, documenting some of our explicit/implicit thinking behind/about the /principles especially since [Paul_Robert_Ll] and I are working iterating on the principles themselves. take a look: https://indieweb.org/principles#Methodology (in the Brainstorming section for now)
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tantek.com edited /principles (+106) "/* Brainstorming */ note prior point from jgmac1106" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /principles (+372) "/* Brainstorming */ developer principles" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /developer-principles (+4712) "stub" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /developer-principles (+32) "more specific link to brainstorm" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /developer-principles (-1) "-" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /large_language_model (+304) "stub Why and Why disclaim" (view diff)
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GWG https://events.indieweb.org/storage/responses/536/1600x-myF0AXOoxt6nPOMuJxzx56PaodsLRg.jpg
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[tantek] notes?
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[tantek] can folks enter their names, domains, and what they did as they demo?
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[tantek] E.g.
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[tantek] I'm Tantek, http://tantek.com, and I did https://indieweb.org/principles#Own_your_identity and https://indieweb.org/principles#Methodology and /developer-principles
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[tantek] [Paul_Robert_Ll] went next who also did a bunch of work on /principles
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[tantek] (then Sonja, Stefan, Joschi)
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[tantek] Paul wrote up and talked us through https://indieweb.org/User:Paulrobertlloyd.com/principles
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[tantek] Sonja made some improvements to her website
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[tantek] [Stefan_Rudersd] can you repeat what you said in your brief demo explanation?
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[tantek] (here in chat)
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[tantek] (and before me, [daveletorey] gave a demo of what he got done on his website)
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[tantek] Joschi got some publishing workflow working with asciidoc on his website
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[tantek] Daniel got some calendaring stuff working
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[tantek] shortcut to build his website
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[tantek] data from his Google calendar, queried by his site when it builds, parse the data into his Jekyll, YAML file, and updates his site
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[tantek] up next: Matthias [pfefferle]
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[tantek] tried to add a reply-context to the new Gutenberg editor
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[tantek] added in-reply-to, shows up if you test it with a microformats parser
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[tantek] up next capjamesg!
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[tantek] worked on image map making
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[tantek] shows an image on his site
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[tantek] that is hot linked in various places
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[tantek] takes him a while to make them so he built a new tool that lets him make them much more easily
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[tantek] allows him to click on parts of an image, highlights in blue, gets the polygon at the bottom
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[tantek] can choose a URL for the polygon
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[tantek] hoping to make it easier for other people to also make image maps
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[tantek] made a list of the image maps on his site
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[tantek] at http://jamesg.blog/image-maps
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[tantek] up next Dominik
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[tantek] has [pfefferle] AP plugin running on his blog
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pcarrier is there a queue I can be added to?
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[tantek] pcarrier so far you're the only remote participant so you'll go first among the remotes!
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[tantek] up next: GWG
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[tantek] added next/prev days links to his posts
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[tantek] aalso for years
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[tantek] can go back to 1981
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[tantek] will not go into the future though
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[tantek] if you go to a year that doesn't exist
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[tantek] then it goes to a custom 404
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[tantek] "Oops! There were no posts made during this period"
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aaronpk i can demo my fedcm hack too
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Loqi aaronpk: [tantek] left you a message 3 hours, 32 minutes ago: it looks like the Etherpad lost the ability to see people's http://IndieWeb.org signed in status and use their domain names as their names, e.g. on https://etherpad.indieweb.org/createday it says "Login to the wiki set your [truncated]" and then a list of "unnamed" participants
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[tantek] up next remote participant pcarrier
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[tantek] http://0pw.me sign up to store
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[tantek] and also http://1pw.me
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[tantek] up next aaronpk
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[tantek] trying to get IndieAuth to be better
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[tantek] new API FedCM
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[tantek] especially "Allow IDP registration:
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[tantek] :
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[tantek] "
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[tantek] allows any website to say you can use it to sign into things
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[tantek] need to turn on the feature now because it is experimental
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[tantek] once you are logged into your IDP, e.g. your own website, or a service like you might setup your site with http://IndieAuth.com
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[tantek] click a button called Register IdP
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[tantek] then browser prompts and you say Allow
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[tantek] goes to another website
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[tantek] clicks Single sign-on (SSO) button
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[tantek] because browser already knows your website
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[tantek] then it does the exchange behind the scenes
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[tantek] never had to type his domain
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[tantek] it logged in with his domain for him
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[tantek] going to support http://Webmention.io consuming such identities as an RP
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Loqi "IndieWebCamp Düsseldorf 2024" call ended https://events.indieweb.org/2024/05/indiewebcamp-düsseldorf-2024-lPSJYTuqCdL2
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paulrobertlloyd.com edited /2024/Düsseldorf/Principles (+69) "Add links to newly created principles brainstorming pages" (view diff)
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[tantek] [Paul_Robert_Ll]++ looking forward to collaborating on updating the principles!!!
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aaronparecki.com edited /2024/Düsseldorf (+117) "/* Posts */" (view diff)
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paulrobertlloyd.com edited /developer-principles (+2152) "Add consolidated developer principles" (view diff)
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aaronpk what is quiet public?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "quiet public" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "quiet public is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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