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Loqi [Event Updated] artlung.com updated "May 22, 2024 6:00pm Homebrew Website Club - Pacific" changed meeting_url https://events.indieweb.org/event/609/history/1725/diff
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GWG I put it on the page
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[tantek] GWG, I didn't see the Site Intros or Demos video links in the schedule grid the way the video links show up for the breakout sessions so I didn't see them
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GWG Odd, I thought I did
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GWG [tantek]: https://archive.org/details/demos-indiewebcamp-dusseldorf-2024
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[tantek] amazing! digging guy screencap / poster image 😂
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[tantek] GWG, linked in the Sunday grid
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[tantek] pcarrier, we can also discuss the dynamics of the different channels, and different networks/clients/services for accessing them here
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[tantek] capjamesg, aaronpk, I tried ^
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capjamesg My most recent message: This is the problem pcarrier was trying to solve. We disable history and have a bot that auto-deletes messages that are older than n hours.
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capjamesg Except I meant to say _enable_ history.
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aaronpk the reason the channel is called `#indieweb-chat` is kind of incidental at this point, orignially the IRC channel was #indiewebcamp and we made the informal channel #indiechat
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aaronpk but then when we renamed the channels to use the #indieweb- prefix, the informal one became #indieweb-chat
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aaronpk which arguably was a mistake
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aaronpk i believe we have some discussions on the wiki about renaming it to be more clear
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pcarrier summary of my position: #indieweb-chat is usable in Slack and IRC but not Discord because there it keeps telling you there are messages there then not showing them to you, even if they're super fresh. We should move to removing messages after N seconds instead, which I offer to implement as a bot.
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capjamesg I am unsure why we are talking about names. The problem is we need an informal space that has some history. IRC and Slack both give you some history.
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aaronpk one problem with the name is it seems to be encouraging more conversation in the unlogged channel than is really appropriate
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aaronpk if less important conversation was happening there, the problem of disappearing chat would be less
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capjamesg aaronpk Snapchat chats disappear but there is a 24 hour period where you can still see them IIRC.
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capjamesg Snapchat arguably became popular because chats disappear, but there is still history.
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capjamesg Without any history, all context is lost in an interaction.
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aaronpk i am up for running a bot to help with this but i still think we need to move more conversation *out* of the channel in the first place
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capjamesg I agree. That, however, is a separate problem.
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aaronpk this is why i'm saying they are related problems
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capjamesg If the only thing anyone does in #indieweb-chat is say hello to each other and ask how their days are going, the channel is a success and valuable to the community.
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capjamesg I agree there is a relation between more messages and people feeling like they are missing out on information.
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[tantek] agreed with aaronpk that I believe the name of the channel is greatly contributing to the problem, especially for new people misunderstanding it
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capjamesg Honestly, I feel like I'm not being heard here [tantek].
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[tantek] at this point I'd be up for summarily making a new channel, like indieweb-random, that does have history turned on in discord that we can instead direct offtopic things to
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capjamesg Then people are going to ask what's the difference between #chat and #random 😄
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[tantek] since you cited the example of Slack random channel being there by default capjamesg
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[tantek] as aaronpk said, I think naming of indieweb-chat was a mistake in the first place
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[tantek] and all the frustrations shared are valid (from you capjamesg, and pcarrier) and I believe support the fact that that naming was a mistake
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capjamesg I am all for any outcome that: (i) allows people to have an environment where they can chat (important for community building), with limited history so the context of discussions are preserved, and; (ii) is not confusing to newcomers.
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[tantek] those are good considerations
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[tantek] I agree that informal chatter helps with community building capjamesg
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capjamesg I am happy for us to rename it, but only if we create a #random channel at the same time.
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capjamesg I'd appreciate others to weigh in, too! The more perspectives, the better!
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aaronpk weird i thought we had a section on /discuss with proposals for alternative names
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aaronpk like -offtopic vs -random for example
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[tantek] adding something now
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[tantek] aaronpk, those proposals were in an Organizers meeting/summit
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[tantek] around the time of the indieweb-* prefix change
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capjamesg NB: If we only rename the channel and do nothing else, I consider us to have failed in addressing the problem. It is essential we have a space where people can chat that is not logged on chat.indieweb., but that has history for context.
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aaronpk capjamesg: that's not what i'm saying
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capjamesg (I'm not saying anyone suggested that, but I wanted to be clear.)
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capjamesg aaronpk thanks! I just wanted to make sure my point got across.
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tantek.com edited /discuss (+1198) "/* other new channels */ propose #indieweb-random" (view diff)
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capjamesg [tantek]++
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[tantek] aaronpk, capjamesg, drafted off the top of my head and quoting from what folks have said (without attribution) https://indieweb.org/discuss#random_channel_for_informal
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capjamesg I agree with that proposal in full.
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capjamesg feels heard.
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tantek.com edited /discuss (+97) "/* random channel for informal */ Opinions?" (view diff)
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[tantek] capjamesg, added a spot for you to put your name to further be heard 🙂
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[tantek] "Opinions?" list at bottom of that section
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aaronpk [tantek]: to be clear, are you suggesting *only* creating a new channel right now, and not changing anything about the #indieweb-chat channel at the moment?
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capjamesg My only concern is that people not on Discord will still use #chat for everything because the behaviour there is functional, unlike in Discord.
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[tantek] capjamesg, I commit to regularly using random 🙂
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[tantek] I will put my live streams there for example ☕
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[tantek] capjamesg, there may be some split/transition for a while, and I think that's ok
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[tantek] if enough of us use random to make it welcoming (and frankly, less intimidating, with fewer people), that will solve the problem of being more welcoming
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aaronpk i am also ok with treating this as a channel rename too
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[tantek] aaronpk, I'm ok with that but with a different name. there are some uses for "history disappears" that a bunch of us use -chat for that is a different use-case than what capjamesg is recognizing as more important
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aaronpk ah ok, in that case this proposal includes *also* logging it on chat.indieweb.org?
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[tantek] the nice thing with a new channel rather than a rename is that we get to be explicit about setting the new culture of the new channel
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capjamesg We shouldn't log random to chat.indieweb.org.
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capjamesg That's a very public space.
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[tantek] no logging, just added discord history
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aaronpk so also no joining it from the web client
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[tantek] aaronpk, different levels of "publics"
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capjamesg +1
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[tantek] yes, no joining random from web client
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[tantek] I will add those details now
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capjamesg [tantek] You used publics before I had the chance 😄
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aaronpk just trying to be very clear about what infrastructure to create here
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capjamesg I have never used the word.
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cophee I think it's a good discussion to have about #indieweb-chat
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cophee I think from a perspective of someone non-technical, Discord or Slack would probably be used over IRC (if they're <25)
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IWDiscord <c​ophee>
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tantek.com edited /discuss (+152) "/* random channel for informal */ more details, not archived nor available on web UI" (view diff)
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cophee I was initially a bit confused about the channel as well like capjamesg[d] mentioned earlier
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[tantek] aaronpk++ for trying to be very clear
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[tantek] aaronpk, added those details to the proposal, good questions
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cophee I think I remember when I first joined I thought I was lacking permissions on Discord to see the chat history
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pcarrier do we agree to move to a bot that removes messages older than X in Discord, to roughly match Slack?
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pcarrier FWIW I have such a bot ready to roll
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aaronpk not for the new "random" channel
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cophee pcarrier[d]: so speedy
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pcarrier what's going to be discord's behaviour for this random channel?
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aaronpk persistent like the others
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aaronpk but i would like to also propose we deprecate the "chat" channel, and make a new "off the record" channel (name tbd) that has the rolling delete bot in discord
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pcarrier WFM
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[tantek] aaronpk, sounds like a good proposal. we could call it indieweb-snap. or perhaps indieweb-story 😉
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aaronpk lol
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[tantek] capjamesg, cophee WDYT? 😆
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[tantek] digs for the prior conversation
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capjamesg 😂
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capjamesg indieweb-snap reminds me of the game Snap.
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capjamesg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snap_(card_game)
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capjamesg I'm all in for a game of Snap if anyone wants to play 😂
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aaronpk aha https://indieweb.org/rename_to_IndieWeb#new_name_for_off_topic_channel
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pcarrier I'm very much down for some https://teeko.cc
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cophee aaronpk: maybe indieweb-vanishing
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aaronpk hahaha nobody supported renaming it to indieweb-chat in the first place 😂
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aaronpk look at the discussion in that wiki page
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Loqi hahahaha
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cophee [tantek]: i am working on my website!!
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cophee but also procrastinating sleep
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pcarrier well, the bot will be ready whenever. I can run it on my server if you'd like to authorize it
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capjamesg pcarrier[d]++
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pcarrier if anybody wants to review the code 🙂 https://gist.github.com/pcarrier/f95c818a1fe399697b093cafab1fb7bb
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[tantek] aaronpk, that's what I meant by accident/default in the proposal (as to why indieweb-chat happened 😂 )
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[tantek] oh dear do we need expiration dates on polls? 😂
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[tantek] I mean the page does say at the top: "Renamed to IndieWeb was a" and references 2016 🙂
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[aciccarello] Ha, I figured the discussion was getting re-hashed. Happy to re-vote elsewhere
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[tantek] I think aaronpk wrote up an updated proposal
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gRegor https://indieweb.org/discuss#off_the_record_channel ?
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gRegor The brainstorming section has other current chat channel discussions
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aaronpk i just added the "off the record" proposal
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aaronpk ok let's make the call on this new "random" channel today tho
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gRegor I'm behind on the proposals, today is first I heard of random :)
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[tantek] gRegor, nope, you're fully up to date, random was (re?)proposed today
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gRegor What's the proposed length of persistence for random? It seems similar to the offtherecord proposal, just not a specific length specified
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pcarrier I'd be happy with anything >1h
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gRegor oh no XD
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pcarrier random + off-the-record feels overkill to me
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tantek.com edited /discuss (+330) "/* Name ideas */ moar: breeze, raindrops, vibes" (view diff)
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[tantek] pcarrier - nope, totally different use-cases
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[tantek] capjamesg++ for clearly stating the gentle community onboarding advantages of having something informal, whether or not it is on/off topic
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gRegor I don't quite understand the different use-cases of those two then
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[tantek] ironically, we discussed that in #indieweb-chat 😂 😭
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gRegor Especially since the otr section starts out with "The problems with the "chat" channel are documented above in the proposal for the "random" channel."
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gRegor it reads like otr has more concrete limits, the 90d limit specified, etc. vs random saying "with limited history"
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pcarrier (I strongly suspect Discord bots can't delete messages after 2 weeks, so 90 days can't be matched)
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aaronpk wait where does it say "with limited history"? that sounds incorrect
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[tantek] should we have a culture of, if someone does say something on-topic in the random channel, it's ok to quote them on the wiki?
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[tantek] yeah we should so no guarantee of any history or logs
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[tantek] as opposed to committing to some specific history, because we can't do that across clients/services
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[tantek] time to sort the naming proposals 😛
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gRegor aaronpk, https://indieweb.org/discuss#random_channel_for_informal
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pcarrier what's the "EH community"?
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[tantek] context?
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pcarrier.com edited /discuss (+18) "/* random channel for informal */ +1 pcarrier" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /discuss (+8) "/* Name ideas */ sort, put double breaks between items for easier viewing when editing to make sure you don't miss one" (view diff)
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pcarrier [tantek] https://indieweb.org/discuss refers to it
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pcarrier [edit] [tantek] https://indieweb.org/discuss refers to it
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tantek.com edited /discuss (+70) "/* random channel for informal */ majority was against indieweb-chat. oops. citation" (view diff)
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pcarrier > While the new "random" channel isn't logged to the web archives, it is still persistent in discord and slack
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pcarrier Feels like a weird in-between to me.
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tantek.com edited /discuss (+284) "/* Name ideas */ -1 offtopic, violates fun principle, similarly offtherecord - so legalistic, much corpo" (view diff)
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[tantek] thank you pcarrier, will expand momentarily
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pcarrier tantek++
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[tantek] weird in-between topics are totally ok for a "random" channel 😂
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gRegor Not to add another option in the mix... but a more generic version of the -espresso option could be indieweb-cafe. Chill vibes, socializing, etc.
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[tantek] 👀
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gRegor Lots of people on laptops, haah
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pcarrier ❤️
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[tantek] gRegor is appealing to the choir 😂
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pcarrier I guess what I'm saying is that I don't see the point of having 3 setups, fully persistent vs persistent in 2 places vs not persistent…
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[tantek] pcarrier, do not mistake characteristics for the use-cases
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pcarrier what's random not for?
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[tantek] I asked above one possible distinguishing thing
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[tantek] I think it should/could be ok to quote from random even though it is not archived
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gRegor ahh, I missed that distinction
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pcarrier ok, that does introduce a difference. I stand by "weird in-between". it's not persistent except in 2 places anybody can join and the web if someone else decides to… might as well be persistent then.
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[tantek] there's always going to be weird differences across clients/services. we can't hope to address/solve all of them
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[tantek] ok I'm adding -cafe gRegor++
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tantek.com edited /discuss (+667) "/* Name ideas */ #indieweb-cafe from gRegor, and indieweb-chill inspired by that" (view diff)
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[tantek] also added -chill because of what someone said
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aaronpk these all sound like great alternatives to "random", is that where you meant to add them?
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[tantek] there we go folks, let's see your vibes on the various proposals for https://indieweb.org/discuss#off_the_record_channel
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[tantek] aaronpk, nope, these are specifically for off the record, see the description of indieweb-chill for example
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[tantek] or raindrops, or espresso, or cafe. all of them imply non-persistence and non-quoting
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[tantek] and little if any guarantee of any history
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[tantek] going to lobby for cafe now
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[tantek] [Joe_Crawford] [Al_Abut] since you are fans of Black Market Cafe, perhaps consider voting for indieweb-cafe in https://indieweb.org/discuss#off_the_record_channel
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aaronpk how about lobby for "lobby" while you're at it 🙃
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gRegor lol
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[tantek] since lobbying about channels is chat about channels, we're good with #indieweb-meta for that 😄
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[tantek] though since you sounded half-joking, there are other slacks/discords that have an introductions channel for newcomers
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[tantek] explicitly to feel welcome to introduce themselves
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[tantek] though I'd prefer to encourage introductions in #indieweb
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aaronpk yeah i don't think we need to separate that
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[tantek] 👍
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[tantek] ok I'll add it explicitly to the description to make it clear it is ok to do so
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aaronpk i feel like those channels that i've seen end up being weird ghost towns because people jhust say hi and then feel weird starting a conversation in the channel to avoid clobbering other people's intros
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[tantek] agreed aaronpk. ok done, #indieweb is now explicitly welcoming of introductions and discussions of what people want to do with their personal sites
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capjamesg That's the behaviour we encourage on Discord ^
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capjamesg #indieweb is mentioned as the first place you should go in the onboarding flow.
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[tantek] beautiful
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[tantek] capjamesg, is there anything else like that in the Discord channel descriptions that we should explicitly add to https://indieweb.org/discuss#Chat_Channels_Purposes ?
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[tantek] aaronpk, btw I support flipping on indieweb-random as proposed if no objections within 24hrs, without making that dependent on doing something with *-chat or the off the record proposal. Let's not introduce artificial dependencies that act as stop energy
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aaronpk agreed
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capjamesg [tantek] Here is the page someone sees when signing up:
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capjamesg https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/866577502586273792/1243267399130812498/Screenshot_2024-05-23_at_19.20.30.png?ex=6650da7e&is=664f88fe&hm=e0ce81f20ca2094d0d5e97bb97e53da7a37718c2e0867e275d4e2bf384476e0b&
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[tantek] these are great! capjamesg if you want to try copyediting the #indieweb description that I linked to in the wiki to be similar, please go for it
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gRegor Is the goal for -random to *eventually* replace -chat? Still not clear on the use-case and the "with limited history" I mentioned before
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aaronpk sorry where are you seeing "with limited history"?
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[tantek] ditched limited history, reload
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aaronpk ah
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[tantek] gRegor, the problem is -chat tried to address too many use-cases, is doing so badly, and is confusing for discord
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[tantek] nothing is a pure "replace" for -chat
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gRegor Now it says "has at least some history" XD
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[tantek] that's why we went back to the use-cases that matter
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gRegor Re-reading after refresh
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[tantek] and then recreated what we want
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[tantek] instead of being saddled with the framing of what we literally voted against (indieweb-chat) as cited
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aaronpk haha well "has at least some history" is at least accurate
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aaronpk `history > 0` rather than `history <= N`
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gRegor It seems to function like -chat now, but a different name, part of my confusion
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gRegor I'm likely to just keep talking in -chat if they both exist at the same time
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[tantek] gRegor, one non-trivial difference, ok to quote from -random, whereas not from -chat
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[tantek] but yes, I will likely keep using both as well, for different reasons!
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gRegor Got that, though I thought most of the motivation for this conversation was "people in Discord have a bad experience with no history"
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[tantek] no that was perhaps the original "problem", but the motivation is documented as the 3 points in "We need a channel that:" https://indieweb.org/discuss#random_channel_for_informal
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[tantek] *positive* constructive motivation, rather than negative avoid bad experience motivation.
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aaronpk also this channel *will* have history in discord
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gRegor wat
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[tantek] aaronpk, since "this channel" could refer to where you're actually chatting (#indieweb-meta), disambig 🙂
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aaronpk ahh
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aaronpk the new "random" channel will have history in discord
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aaronpk since that was only kind of implied in the proposal i will make it explicit
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[tantek] will have at least some history in discord, no guarantees for how much
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[tantek] it is explicit!
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gRegor Not to me
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pcarrier I like low history channels
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gRegor Those three bullet points describe -chat currently to my reading. Sorry, not sure what I'm missing, but clearly am missing something. I'm not saying this to be anti the random channel either :)
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aaronpk -chat currently has *no* history in discord, not "at least some"
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[tantek] gRegor, it is explicit for the new random channel "has at least some history so the context"
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gRegor Gotcha
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tantek.com edited /discuss (-23) "/* random channel for informal */ since folks are clear that this is part of the proposal: it is ok to quote from random" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /discuss (+9) "/* random channel for informal */ clarify not "publicly archived" since it is archived in slack, discord, and anyone's personal IRC clients" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /discuss (+329) "/* random channel for informal */ vote/thoughts" (view diff)
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Loqi [Event Updated] artlung.com updated "May 23, 2024 12:00pm Front End Study Hall #003" changed meeting_url https://events.indieweb.org/event/607/history/1726/diff
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[tantek] aciccarello++ for good comments
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Loqi aciccarello has 12 karma in this channel over the last year (30 in all channels)
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www.vzqk50.com created /chipotle (+744) "Created page" (view diff)
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aaronpk 👀
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aaronpk chipotle << /fun
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Loqi ok, I added "[[fun]]" to the "See Also" section of /chipotle https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=95477&oldid=95476
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aaronpk fun << /chipotle
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Loqi ok, I added "[[chipotle]]" to the "See Also" section of /fun https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=95478&oldid=91381
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www.vzqk50.com edited /page (+15) "Add link to Chipotle page" (view diff)
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gRegor lol
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[tantek] wat
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[tantek] 🌯
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aaronpk pretty solid wiki page tbh
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tantek.com edited /chipotle (+12) "lowercase per actual path usage" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /chipotle (+169) "actual Why use-case" (view diff)
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[tantek] yeah I'm going to have think about /tacobell
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[tantek] and /jamba
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tantek.com edited /chipotle (+36) "historical example of when to send someone to get you Chipotle" (view diff)
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[tantek] ^ there's the silo connection
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tantek.com edited /chipotle (+18) "addyourself" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /chipotle (+19) "🌯 until there's a /burrito page instead" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /🌯 (+22) "🌯 until there's a /burrito page instead" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /chipotle (+11) "dfn markup helps" (view diff)
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Loqi [New Event] artlung.com created "Jun 6, 2024 12:00pm Front End Study Hall #004" https://events.indieweb.org/DVYPvvZYYlHT
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