#meta 2024-09-16

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tantek.com edited /Micropub/Clients (+609) "many of these need screenshots" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Micropub/Clients (+235) "/* Monocle */ add screenshots from main article" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Micropub/Clients (+0) "/* Monocle */ typos" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /OwnYourCheckin (+23) "needs screenshots" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Micropub/Clients (-12) "/* OwnYourCheckin */ OYG is former" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /OwnYourSwarm (+23) "needs screenshots}}" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Micropub/Clients (+67) "/* Screech */ add screenshot from its article" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /shpub (+62) "needs screenshots, SA mp clients" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Micropub/Clients (+81) "/* Slater */ add screenshot from its article" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Micropub/Clients (-21) "/* Slater */ -ns" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Micropub/Clients (+95) "/* sparkles */ add screenshot from its article" (view diff)
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aaronpk at one point i was looking into the zoom api to see if I could bridge the zoom meeting chat with the chat here
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aaronpk now that we have the events channel, maybe I should revisit that? any thoughts?
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tantek.com edited /Sunlit (+75) "needs screen shots, articles section" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Micropub/Clients (+1) "/* sparkles */ float right" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Micropub/Clients (+38) "/* Taproot */ screenshot from its article" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Micropub/Clients (+55) "/* Koype Publish */ screenshot" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Micropub/Clients (+14) "/* Launchbar */ clearleft" (view diff)
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qubyte.codes edited /Micropub/Servers (+590) "Add my site to the list of implementations." (view diff)
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[tantek] aaronpk whoa, the chat in Zoom has an API?!? That would be surreal for it to be bridged (bidirectional I assume?) with the events channel, at least maybe the main (Red?) zoom room
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[tantek] I mean surreal in a good way
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[tantek] 👍
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qubyte.codes edited /Micropub/Clients (+488) "Add my implementation to the list of personal clients." (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Micropub/Clients (+0) "/* Personal clients */ add CTA at end" (view diff)
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[qubyte] Oops, sorry!
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tantek.com edited /follow_your_nose (+1026) "add Examples section with a bunch of examples (should this be a table?)" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /follow_your_nose (+322) "Adoption by standards groups" (view diff)
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[tantek] request for gardening help: please take a look at the Micropub Clients listed in https://indieweb.org/Micropub/Clients and click their links and make sure they are at least still up and running. If not, please make a note of the problem (domain down, etc.) and move the client to the https://indieweb.org/Micropub/Clients#Previous_Clients section. Thank you!
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tantek.com edited /Micropub/Clients (-5) "/* Clients overview list */ simplify" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Micropub/Clients (+5) "/* Clients overview */ nbsp" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Micropub/Clients (+0) "/* sparkles */ a little wider" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Micropub/Clients (+10) "/* Sunlit */ clear for Taproot" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Micropub/Clients (+13) "/* sparkles */ wider" (view diff)
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[tantek] well that's going to be this week's top page, most likely
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catgirlin.space [tantek]: ~~is that a challenge~~
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[tantek] More wiki gardening is absolutely welcome. Check out /to-do for some of the pages that need updating
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jacky does #indieweb-chat require a invite now? (on IRC; from main chan)
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[tantek] aaronpk did we leave indie-chat on IRC alone or was it blocked? I think it's better to let it be and folks who want to only be on IRC there for legacy reasons can stay
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jacky I mean, nbd either way
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jacky flipped it to this b/c Slack was really resource heavy
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aaronpk I made it so nobody can join anymore, but left everyone in the channel
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jacky ah okay
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jacky (invite-only then)
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aaronpk I figure it's weirder if IRC folks are still able to use it because there's no indication it's *not* bridged anymore so you'd never know
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catgirlin.space wait the irc people get to have a secret chat room??
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jacky nah, it makes sense (the UX effectively is the same)
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[tantek] Yeah it's fine to let it go like that
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jacky well not let it go, lol but the UX of requiring an invite to a unlogged channel makes sense
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aaronpk What I didn't want to do is to redirect the channel
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catgirlin.space secret channel for the cool discord server members when,,,,,
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aaronpk see this is why i am trying to kill the channel ^^
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jacky haha
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loqi.me created /cafe (+147) "prompted by [mattl] and dfn added by [mattl]" (view diff)
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[tantek] lol
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loqi.me created /IWC_BER (+24) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /IWC_Berlin (+0) "2024!" (view diff)
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[tantek] Ok folks, I've gotten a venue for IndieWebCamp Berlin and am working out the funding. Should have an answer / hopefully confirmation in a day or two.
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[tantek] If you're excited about IWC Berlin in November, join me in #indieweb-events and let's keep chatting about it!
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[schmarty] tantek++ exciting!
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Loqi tantek has 36 karma in this channel over the last year (122 in all channels)
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loqi.me created /BER (+19) "prompted by capjamesg[d] and redirect added by capjamesg[d]" (view diff)
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aaronpk pcarrier[d] i think the bot doesn't like my really large integer
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pcarrier aaronpk: should be fine with months, what happened?
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aaronpk it deletes messages instantly once i set it to 90 days
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aaronpk i just modified the code to divide the timestamps by 1000 and i think it's working now
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pcarrier Ooh will look into it
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pcarrier Can you PR / mail the patch?
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aaronpk sure
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aaronpk https://github.com/pcarrier/purgatorial/pull/1
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aaronpk [edit] https://github.com/pcarrier/purgatorial/pull/1
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pcarrier interesting, would have multiplied the other side by 1000 instead
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aaronpk well i didn't like defining the timeout in milliseconds in the config file anyway
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pcarrier not my point, you'll see
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pcarrier setTimeout expects milliseconds though. will fix
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aaronpk oh shoot right
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pcarrier pushed a fix
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pcarrier if ((Date.now()/1000) - (date.getTime()/1000) > msgTimeout) => if (Date.now() - date.getTime() > 1000 * msgTimeout)
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pcarrier ^ that's what I meant by "multiply the other side by 1000 instead" :)
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aaronpk will that work tho? my assumption was that 7776000000 was causing the problem, so i made the numbers all smaller
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aaronpk well it didn't immediately delete the messages this time
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aaronpk not really sure what the problem was then
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aaronpk nope it's deleting everything again
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aaronpk haha it's setTimeout
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aaronpk apparently setTimeout has a max value of 2^32
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aaronpk and if you give it a bigger value it runs immediately
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jacky talk about integer overflow
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aaronpk i'm tempted to rewrite this as a php script that runs on a cron job, heh
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[tantek] PHP++
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Loqi PHP has 2 karma in this channel over the last year (3 in all channels)
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aaronpk if we were doing a much shorter threshold the setTimeout and websockets is cute, but it's really not necessary for a 90 day interval
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aaronpk ok well you had some good retry and paging logic in there so i just ripped out the websockets and timeouts and turned this into a cron job instead
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tantek.com edited /issue (+88) "/* Tantek */ semi-automattic POSSE to GitHub" (view diff)
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[mattl] Hmm now I wonder if I can somehow sync all GitHub issues assigned to me to my own website and therefore to OmniFocus
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[mattl] PHP++
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Loqi PHP has 3 karma in this channel over the last year (4 in all channels)
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pcarrier [aaronpk]: well the original idea is to delete as we go stuff more than X old, not every X
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aaronpk right, delete messages older than 90 days every day
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pcarrier 90 days seem on the long side, is it to mirror slack or because we want that long? I'd personally be happy with 1-7 days
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pcarrier Either way, PHP cron seems fine
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aaronpk it's to mirror slack, at least until we write a similar bot for slack
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aaronpk but anyway it's deployed now as a daily cron using the deno script
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pcarrier Oh yeah I can write that for slack
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aaronpk yea should be pretty similar
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aaronpk if we do that i'd be in favor of like 7 days
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catgirlin.space 7 days does sound nice
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aaronpk longer than conversations linger in a physical cafe but i think that's fine :)
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capjamesg[d] 7 days sounds good.
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[tantek] let's go with that and see how it feels
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loqi.me created /magic_link (+150) "prompted by [mattl] and dfn added by [mattl]" (view diff)
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[tantek] what is a capability URL
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Loqi A Capability URL (AKA hard to guess URL or secret URL) is a URL that provides access to a resource to anyone who has the URL without an explicit login https://indieweb.org/capability_URL
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tantek.com edited /capability_URL (+24) "AKA magic link" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /magic_link (-122) "r" (view diff)
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mat.tl edited /capability_URL (+234) (view diff)
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catgirlin.space capjamesg[d] #overview links to a non-existant channel now (at the bottom abt chat logs)
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capjamesg[d] Will fix!
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catgirlin.space yay
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catgirlin.space [meowHug](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1168347793027510363.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=meowHug)
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catgirlin.space [edit] [meowHug](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1168347793027510363.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=meowHug)
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capjamesg[d] Fixed!
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catgirlin.space yayay
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Loqi 😄
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catgirlin.space hi loqi
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tantek.com edited /capability_URL (+189) "/* See Also */ W3C has three different versions/links for this for some reason, whereas TR should at least have the most recent published draft, and the Editor's draft should be labeled as such, not Draft" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /capability_URL (-1) "/* W3C on Capability URLs */ -]" (view diff)
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jacky [fluffy]: I, for one, am curious and interested in your ideas and approaches for the "IndieWeb hub"
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jacky wrong channel ugh
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