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tantek.com edited /large_language_model (+51) "finish blockquote" (view diff)
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[tantek] I wonder if there's a way to teach Loqi that something is the Wikipedia definition for it, and have it either remember that somewhere or add it as a "look up" in a particular wiki page
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[tantek] e.g. /what_is
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[tantek] ooh I got it, I think. anytime someone answers a "what is" question/response from Loqi with something of the form "x is full-URL-including-https" WITH NOTHING ELSE then instead of creating a page for x, Loqi adds a "* '''<dfn id='x'>x</dfn>''' is full-URL-including-https." to a list on /what-is, and then uses IDs on that page as a secondary lookup if the wiki does not have the thing defined.
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[tantek] that was we could teach Loqi anything someone asks about that doesn't have an IndieWeb-relevant definition by linking Loqi to the actual answer somewhere else and then Loqi can return that when asked in the future.
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aaronpk i won't be able to make a sentence out of that though
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aaronpk so as long as answering with just the URL is ok, that's doable
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[tantek] the sentence is merely returning the same thing Loqi learned! "x is full-URL-including-https"
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[tantek] like don't do ANYTHING special, no linking the term, nothing
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[tantek] e.g. if I had answered BTTF is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_to_the_Future
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[tantek] then Loqi would merely return that same statement
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[tantek] "BTTF is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_to_the_Future"
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[tantek] when asked in the future
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aaronpk that would work
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[tantek] would also solve the larger problem of people wanting / being able to answer with "just" a link and not have a whole page created
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[tantek] I was thinking another HTML way to do it would be dl with dt/dd pairs however I feel like that would be less userfriendly a page to read and/or edit in case you wanted change/fix the definition that Loqi would return for a not-indieweb-relevant question that was asked
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tantek.com edited /command_line_interface (+91) "move criticisms to their own section from SA, add UI to SA" (view diff)
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[mattl] [tantek] would this mean our wiki is full of redirects to Wikipedia pages?
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[tantek] [mattl] no just a single page. please re-read https://chat.indieweb.org/meta/2024-09-23#t1727056835747500
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Loqi [preview] [[tantek]] ooh I got it, I think. anytime someone answers a "what is" question/response from Loqi with something of the form "x is full-URL-including-https" WITH NOTHING ELSE then instead of creating a page for x, Loqi adds a "* '''<dfn id='x'>x</dfn>''' is ful...
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[mattl] oh that’s fun. I like that idea.
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[mattl] it’ll be fun to preload it with a ton of terms too
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[tantek] that page might get unmanageable but one problem at a time
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[tantek] also I'd say no to any "preloading" because that would likely add more noise than utility IMO
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[tantek] better to only bother growing it when people ask questions in chat
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[mattl] Well, I was thinking this might be an opportunity to remove a lot of small wiki pages.
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[tantek] the page would serve as a gentler way of saying LMWTFY or LMGTFY
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[tantek] nah, I'd prefer we try to document Indieweb-relevance at first
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[tantek] is there a way to look for "small" pages that need such gardening?
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[mattl] find all the stubs that are genuinely stubs, ie. a one liner… and see if we can better serve those as list items on /what-is instead of a stub nobody has touched for a decade.
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pcarrier[d] [tantek]: easy to understand _or_ explain
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loqi.me created /blog_generator_like_Jekyll (+16) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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pcarrier[d] explain a microwave oven. not how to use the object, but the object itself.
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[tantek] explain anything with a computer itself, same problem
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pcarrier[d] if I can take the computer for granted, sure
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[tantek] explain the code behind a CLI. etc.
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pcarrier[d] lots easier than a GUI
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pcarrier[d] like, orders of magnitude
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[tantek] same thing, if we can take the general device class of a microwave for granted
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pcarrier[d] so are the computers CLIs come from
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[tantek] when people ask for something simple, they are not asking about the internals, they are asking about simple to use
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pcarrier[d] they mean easy
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[tantek] thus better to answer that question than be semantically pedantic
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[tantek] or cherry pick a dictionary definition to try to argue a theoretical point
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pcarrier[d] well, thankfully you already did that, so I didn't have to
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[tantek] nothing with computers is simple.
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pcarrier[d] oops totally the wrong channel sorry
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[mattl] [tantek] they're not even easy to turn off anymore.
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[tantek] true
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[mattl] [tantek] https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:ShortPages&limit=200&offset=0
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[tantek] heh
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aaronpk wow there really are a bunch of pages that are just "X is [link]"
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[tantek] aaronpk I was not making up the use-case 🙂
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