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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-01.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-01.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-01.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-01.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-01.html
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[tantek] how does one get the shortlink to a Meetable event? I should know how to do this but it's not obvious on the event and there is no rel=shortlink in the source either 🤔 E.g. https://events.indieweb.org/2024/11/indiewebcamp-berlin-2024-XkH8P6vkmYNr
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aaronpk ooh missing rel=shortlink good feature request
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aaronpk the short link is take off everything but the unique slug at the end https://events.indieweb.org/XkH8P6vkmYNr
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Loqi [preview] IndieWebCamp Berlin 2024
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[tantek] ohhh, thanks aaronpk!
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[tantek] could also add "Copy shortlink" to the menu to next to the edit button, maybe right after to "Copy Export URL"
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-01.html
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aaronpk :+1:
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tantek.com edited /shortlink (+93) "link to rel-shortlink spec at top in case people were looking for that" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /link_shortener (+1804) "move articles here from shortlink page, add a couple with blockquotes, link archiveteam list of shorteners being checked" (view diff)
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gRegor !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2024/10/homebrew-website-club-pacific-pre-halloween-edition-XNXm8eE3PLD9 events/2024-10-30-hwc-pacific
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cali-iwc Created https://indieweb.org/events/2024-10-30-hwc-pacific. Please review the page to ensure the document is correctly formatted and remove any unnecessary text.
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cali.moe created /events/2024-10-30-hwc-pacific (+3655) "Created event page using IndieWeb events / Etherpad archiver" (view diff)
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[tantek] aaronpk, should we exclude the "Mediawiki:" wiki namespace from "new" or "most edited" pages for the newsletter? It doesn't provide much (any) value to readers, i.e. no dfn, and if you click on it it just says "Code of conduct"
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gregorlove.com edited /events/2024-10-30-hwc-pacific (-182) "cleanup" (view diff)
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aaronpk oh yeah
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aaronpk those don't get updated much, normally not an issue
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aaronpk let's see if that works
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gRegor What emoji should Edinburgh have for adding wiki notes on https://indieweb.org/Template:Homebrew_Website_Club ?
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gregorlove.com edited /events/2024-10-31-hwc-edinburgh (+27) "irl not zoom, HWC template" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Template:Homebrew_Website_Club (+168) "10/30 and 31 HWCs" (view diff)
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gRegor jack o lantern placeholder for now since it was Halloween :)
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aaronpk how is there no bagpipe emoji
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[Joe_Crawford] Scottish culture erasure, surely
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-01.html
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artlung.com edited /events/2024-10-30-hwc-pacific (+148) "/* Notes: link to blog post encompassing my story */" (view diff)
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capjamesg[d] aaronpk That is a very good question.
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[tantek] what are cities
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Loqi cities are a good place to organize and host IndieWebCamps and Homebrew Website Club meetups; see the lists of cities below https://indieweb.org/cities
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[tantek] gRegor, Scottish flag? 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
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[tantek] there you go, if capjamesg[d] has a better idea he can replace it 🙂
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gregorlove.com edited /Template:Homebrew_Website_Club (+24) "🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-01.html
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gRegor embed got a lot of love this week
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gRegor also lol at https://indieweb.org/days_since_last_domain_purchase_at_HWC
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tantek.com edited /days_since_last_domain_purchase_at_HWC (+64) "try mediawiki functions for datetime math" (view diff)
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[tantek] ^ bow before my mediawiki time math function foo 😄 😂
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-01.html
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Kupietz that people registering domains during HWC meetings was a thing, they told me afterwards.)
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Kupietz Nice, but it makes it look like the elapsed days is as of Oct 30, not since then. BTW m9z.org and m12z.org is me... short & long forms of my name. We were kibitzing during the meeting and I realized having my full domain (IE my full name) and face in the meeting screenshots meant I'd end up in pimeyes and similar, decided to redact identifying info. And, amazingly, the right 3- and 4-character .org domains were available. (Didn't even know
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Kupietz LOL, it truncated my comment & posted the end after the beginning... maybe we need a char counter on here
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[tantek] a 3-letter .org is impressive, and very useful for a personal link shortener
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Kupietz Yeah, amazed it was available.
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[tantek] I saw it in the right order here in Slack
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Kupietz Oh, weird.
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Kupietz Anyway, yeah, I have a few short domains I've collected over the years... I have a 3-letter one on .us too, but never one on .org before
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tantek.com edited /days_since_last_domain_purchase_at_HWC (+153) "emphasize current counter vs purchase history" (view diff)
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[tantek] ^ how's that kupietz: https://indieweb.org/days_since_last_domain_purchase_at_HWC
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Kupietz There we go. I am mollified.
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Kupietz I begin me weekend in a fully mollified state.
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Kupietz Oh, that's interesting. You can do live calculations in the wikicode there. Nice
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Kupietz I used to run a wiki, I had a variation of clusterwiki I built up over years... somehow lost it at some point. I wish I'd held onto that, that was fun
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[tantek] Mediawiki++ for so many robust features
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Loqi Mediawiki has 1 karma over the last year
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Kupietz It does seem to be the standard. I actually got a copy of clusterwiki probably before I'd ever heard of Wikipedia... or at least, didn't know much about it. And I'd been doing a lot of PERL before that, so, it just was a logical choice to me. I had an event calendar running on there, I wrote "website includes" that would CURL entire webpages so I could save things that way, the kind of thing I later used evernote for... I did a ton of work
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Kupietz on it.
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[tantek] Mediawiki is the best for orgs right now, though I would not advocate for installing / maintaining it personally (I don't recommend MySQL admin for any personal website)
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[tantek] Still need a "simple" flat-file based wiki solution
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[tantek] for personal wikis
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Kupietz Yeah, that's what clusterwiki was. Everything was files on disk, PERL scripts managing everything. Pretty straightforward
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[tantek] I think the challenge there is perl 🙂
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gRegor Only minimal experience with /DokuWiki, but I found it fairly easy
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Kupietz Curious, what do you favor for database backends for personal websites?
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Kupietz Hah, yeah, I was doing a lot of PERL back in the day. Been many years since I looked at it
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-01.html
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gRegor Doku is PHP, though maybe it was Perl in the past
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Kupietz I have to say, until this year of diving deep into Wordpress's backend, I *hated* PHP. Now I, er, tolerate it. Still hate having to go back and work on some of my older clients sites based on weird templating frameworks and stuff
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[tantek] oops realizing we are in #indieweb-meta — will take the backends question for personal websites to #indieweb-dev
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Kupietz 👍
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-01.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-01.html
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-01.html
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-01.html
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