#meta 2024-12-03

2024-12-03 UTC
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connorgurney.me.uk me contact.html edited /Jekyll (+70) "Add self to list of IndieWeb users" (view diff)
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connorgurney.me.uk me contact.html edited /Jekyll (+10) "Update reference to GitHub's use of Jekyll" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /indieweb_wiki (+22) "prompted by [Murray]" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (+44) "another present on the 4th" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (+87) "blog post gift for today" (view diff)
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immibis multiple channels suck
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immibis it's completely unnecessary overhead
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[tantek] It's ok, you may leave the ones that aren't interesting to you
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immibis imagine if there was just one channel saying "here you can talk about indieweb" instead of a guide on which channel to use
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capjamesg[d] aaronpk++ for adding the Notes label to events! Thank you!
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Loqi aaronpk has 42 karma in this channel over the last year (124 in all channels)
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gRegor what is omg.lol
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Loqi omg.lol is a web hosting platform on which you can build a web presence, offering features like hosting a simple landing page, email forwarding, and URL redirection, and a community around the product https://indieweb.org/omg.lol
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gRegor what is welcoming
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Loqi Welcoming is how we as a community welcome new members to our community https://indieweb.org/welcoming
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herebox Feels like I generated some link preview spam from a well intentioned Loqi at <https://discordapp.com/channels/866577279223595018/866577476565336074/1313580794060738641>
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herebox Are there known best practices for effective link previews on indieweb chat? Initially posted from discord if relevant. Discord supports using < > brackets to avoid discord-native link previews.
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IWDiscord <h​erebox>
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gRegor immibis, We've documented the reasoning behind each of the channels pretty well, e.g. https://indieweb.org/discuss#indieweb Main channel is specifically meant to stay user-centric and be as welcoming as possible, including people who have never built a website before. We know from experience that seeing a lot of jargon or dev talk in there can lead people to think indieweb isn't for them, or "it's just developers," etc.
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aaronpk @herebox the "spam" is because you edited the message in discord, which causes the new content to be sent again to IRC and Slack. avoiding editing messages in discord will help this
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aaronpk so, edit -> new message in IRC -> Loqi fetches link preview again. so each edit results in another link preview from Loqi
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herebox.org edited /chat-names (+28) "/* D-I */ add herebox" (view diff)
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herebox Test post please ignore , chat bullet and preview from discord
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herebox - https://indieweb.org/link-preview
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herebox See also https://indieweb.org/reply-context
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IWDiscord <h​erebox>
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IWDiscord <h​erebox>
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herebox [edit] Test post please ignore , chat bullet and preview from discord
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IWDiscord <h​erebox>
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herebox - https://indieweb.org/link-preview
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IWDiscord <h​erebox>
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herebox See also https://indieweb.org/reply-context
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herebox Confirmed that something about that previous post from discord is triggering an "edit" and double-post on IRC for some reason, based on the log at https://chat.indieweb.org/meta/2024-12-03#bottom
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herebox [edit] Test post please ignore , chat bullet and preview from discord
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IWDiscord <h​erebox>
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IWDiscord <h​erebox>
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herebox See also https://indieweb.org/reply-context
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herebox - https://indieweb.org/link-preview
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[tantek] hey herebox, can you use #indieweb-random for tests?
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herebox Yep
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[tantek] thank you!
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herebox hmm, looks like #indieweb-random might not be bridged to irc to allow testing the auto-edit? I'm wondering if the discord-native link preview is triggering an "edit" on irc, might be avoided by using <> brackets, as follows <https://indieweb.org/link-preview>
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herebox Previous post looks good on discord, but breaks the link on irc web bridge with trailing > . I'll watch link+edit behavior and see what works best, thanks for the feedback.
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gRegor I don't see any trailing ">" on those links in IRC
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gRegor Nevermind, looking at the wrong message. I see what you mean on https://chat.indieweb.org/meta/2024-12-03#t1733254700133200
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Loqi [preview] [herebox] hmm, looks like #indieweb-random might not be bridged to irc to allow testing the auto-edit? I'm wondering if the discord-native link preview is triggering an "edit" on irc, might be avoided by using <> brackets, as follows <https://indieweb.org/lin...
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gRegor The link in that message does work in my IRC (Hexchat). I think the web chat archive auto-linker might need some debugging to get that to work
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gRegor Looks like it's in https://github.com/indieweb/chat.indieweb.org/blob/main/lib/Regex.php#L115
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marksuth.dev edited /IndieWeb_Movie_Club (+110) "/* The List of Future Hosts */" (view diff)
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