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[tantek] per discussion in #indieweb I think there are sufficient real world and varied examples of "Acknowledgments" sections, including two on IndieWeb wiki pages that that alone may be worth its own wiki page to document practices across (online) books, specifications, and hopefully soon, some blog posts
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[tantek] aaronpk, new (hopefully sufficiently constrained) idea for Loqi handling "when is":
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[tantek] 1 search the names of upcoming events for a word (not substring) match of the query string
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[tantek] 2 if there are one or more events that have the query string in their name, return up to the first three if that many with name and start date(time) and short link, soonest first. Exit.
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[tantek] 3 search the query string as an event tag
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[tantek] 4 if there are one or more events that have the query string as a tag, return up to the first three if that many with name and start date(time) and short link, soonest first. Exit.
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aaronpk hm actually now that all the upcoming events are listed in one page that updates automatically, "when is" just needs to search through everything here https://xray.p3k.app/parse?pretty=true&url=https%3A%2F%2Fevents.indieweb.org%2F
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[tantek] 5 return "No {query string} events found. Want to organize one? (Link to create an event)"
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[tantek] Iā€™m not sure "everything here" would give you high quality result. I would expect some noise.
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[tantek] Hence why I suggested searching those two specific "fields"
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aaronpk i just meant that i don't need to make a search API, i can just use that JSON as the source material
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[tantek] Like if an event described itself as "inspired by HWC" that shouldn't be returned in a query for HWC. Certainly not before any actual HWC events
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[tantek] Almost. That JSON lacks the tags of each event
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[tantek] Which is probably one of the highest quality ways to return results
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aaronpk i can add the tags to the mf2
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[tantek] Oooh like in small print below the city/country?
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aaronpk let's see how that looks
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aaronpk cute https://media.aaronpk.com/2025/01/15080721-6367.png
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[tantek] Exactly!
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aaronpk and now it's in the mf2 json
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[tantek] Hah. Need to tag the FrESH events with #fresh šŸ˜†
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[tantek] (Event name) starts in (num days or hh:mm if <24h til) at (date and time if any) in ("Zoom" if online or city, country)
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[tantek] Or if the result is "live now":
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[tantek] (Event name) started (hh:mm) ago and has (hh:mm) remaining in ("Zoom" if online or city, country)
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[tantek] That should cover it
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aaronpk hm, there are likely always going to be multiple events matching the common queries
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[tantek] Right, which is a feature. Show the next up to three matches
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[tantek] That should cover the "when is HWC" use case for when there's multiple HWCs coming up
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[tantek] Like in the same day or week
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aaronpk i think it'll look best reporting each even on its own line of the response
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[tantek] I can believe that
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[tantek] If there's just one result report that, exit
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[tantek] (Else) "There are (n) (query string) events coming up soon:" <br>
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[tantek] And each (up to 3) on its own line
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[tantek] If there's more then three, maybe another line with: "More (query string) events: (link to search results on events.indieweb)."
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aaronpk trying to choose how much resolution of the start date/time to include in plaintext
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aaronpk >30 days out it's going to report the date, <30 days will report days until, <24 hours will report the time
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aaronpk except multiday events never report the start time
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aaronpk when is hwc?
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Loqi There are 8 hwc events coming up soon: Homebrew Website Club Europe/London on Jan 15 at 19:00pm +00:00 https://events.indieweb.org/tgJwRgluFocb IndieWeb Meetup Austin on Jan 15 at 19:00pm -06:00 https://events.indieweb.org/zFL9jqPFAgIK Homebrew Website Club Europe/London in 7 days https://events.indieweb.org/EDE0nKJmcyhk More hwc events: https://events.indieweb.org/
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aaronpk when is austin?
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Loqi IndieWeb Meetup Austin on Jan 15 at 19:00pm -06:00 https://events.indieweb.org/zFL9jqPFAgIK
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aaronpk when is berlin?
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Loqi TENTATIVE: IndieWebCamp Berlin on Nov 8 https://events.indieweb.org/oNMvxRpOvfEs
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aaronpk that works
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capjamesg[d] Nice!!
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capjamesg[d] aaronpk++
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[tantek] aaronpk++ nailed it!!! Only request is to make the "time til" easier for folks (not require timezone math) and add something like:
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[tantek] Homebrew Website Club Europe/London starts in 53min on Jan 15 at 19:00pm +00:00 https://events.indieweb.org/tgJwRgluFocb
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Loqi [preview] Homebrew Website Club Europe/London
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[tantek] Make sense? Doable for when it's maybe <12h to the event?
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aaronpk 12h might be the right cutoff
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[Joe_Crawford] I added a "fresh" tag to the next FrESH [tantek] - rather narrow use-case, but 5 tags seems a reasonable number.
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aaronpk when is fresh?
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Loqi Front End Study Hall #019 on Jan 16 at 18:00pm +00:00 https://events.indieweb.org/WjRE1WdPjK1v
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[tantek] so good
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[tantek] when is nonexistent?
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Loqi No upcoming nonexistent events found. Want to organize one? https://events.indieweb.org/
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[tantek] šŸ˜„
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[tantek] aaronpk this is an interesting slightly unexpected result:
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[tantek] when is London
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Loqi There are 3 London events coming up soon: Homebrew Website Club Europe/London on Jan 15 at 19:00pm +00:00 https://events.indieweb.org/tgJwRgluFocb Homebrew Website Club Europe/London in 7 days https://events.indieweb.org/EDE0nKJmcyhk Homebrew Website Club Europe/London in 14 days https://events.indieweb.org/JqXSTx1zbNXy
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[tantek] should "on Jan 15" there instead say "today" ?
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capjamesg[d] When is coffee break?
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Loqi No upcoming coffee break events found. Want to organize one? https://events.indieweb.org/
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aaronpk no, because Jan 15 is yesterday right now in some places
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aaronpk and in some cases "today" would actually be tomorrow depending on who's reading it when
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doesnm when is Russia
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Loqi No upcoming Russia events found. Want to organize one? https://events.indieweb.org/
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capjamesg[d] !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2025/01/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-tgJwRgluFocb events/2025-01-15-hwc-europe
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gregorlove.com edited /Template:Homebrew_Website_Club (+38) "HWC EU" (view diff)