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[tantek] I updated the channel topic in #indieweb to: "What's new on your personal website? Anything user/content related. Tech stuff to #indieweb-dev please! Next meetups: https://events.indieweb.org/, Code of conduct: https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct, chat log: http://chat.indieweb.org/today"
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capjamesg[d] Maybe "What's new on your personal website? Share anything related to content / building on your site. Tech stuff to #indieweb-dev please!"
# [tantek] We still have the problem of too many conversations becoming technology-centric in #indieweb and then some subset of folks being annoyed when asked to take their tech chats to #indieweb-dev. That's more of a problem (being unwelcoming to the quieter folks who are there to actually *do* (rather than build) things with their personal site) IMO.
# capjamesg[d] Good point.
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[morganm] I understand the grizzled veteran approach to the topic delineation but to my eyes it feels quite strongly over emphasized. I think the bot / people should generally usher the convos elsewhere after say, 10 posts, not 1 or 2
# [morganm] There is a part of me which does not quite understand how talking about the tech stuff is unwelcoming, unless its like lists of acronyms and not engaging with others but self centred, thats not quite a techy issue thats a general expectations of norms thing ?
# [morganm] This is just a matter of perspective, but sometimes when I go to a foreign place I want to learn so I do as romans do, sometimes. The mods here have decades upon decades of cumulative experience, some making standards for the web, I remember looking at your title [aaronpk] one time and your products you influence affect like millions of people?
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# [morganm] Some person at some point said they found the tech chat confusing and everyone got reactive and wanted to make things more welcoming. Im just here as someone who wants to visit semi frequently and has been in the 1% rule my entire life on the web that I find the rate of ushering marginally, slightly, less welcoming. Maybe we balance out somehow. Anyways, just what I thought when asked what I thought 🙂
# [morganm] what is 1% rule ?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "1% rule" yet. Would you like to create it?_ (Or just say "1% rule is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [morganm] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule
# [morganm] I can believe that, I generally support and endorse the hard work of the mods, just sharing a little of my perspective, "vocally" and in the chat
# [morganm] Seriously, this place is great, No real critical notes, just I open the app and people get ushered a lot. Lots of people just have enthusiasm for what they are doing and the ushering is something to balance
# [morganm] Also, admittedly, sometimes I forget Indieweb is like a foundation with IRL events, my participation has been remote, and with a small group of friendly people here, so I forget there are lots of lurkers and people of variable participation
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# [morganm] 1% rule is the observation that for every contributor to a web community, there many more lurkers
# [morganm] Loqi didnt quite get that one heh
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gregorlove.com edited /User:Gregorlove.com/sandbox (-9) "started draft: How to set up a personal template" (view diff)
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gRegor [Sophia_wood], [tantek], Started drafting contents for a page to link to instead of to /Template:sparkline, feedback appreciated! https://indieweb.org/User:Gregorlove.com/sandbox#How_to_set_up_a_personal_template
# [tantek] [morganm] a lot of the time people feel so unwelcome by the dev talk in #indieweb that they don't even feel welcome enough to complain about it. More often then not, they instead take to social media of some sort and complain there, and propagate a reputation of "it's only for people who run their own servers" (sometimes in their homes)
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tantek.com moved /CloudFlare to /Cloudflare "canonical casing on the website"
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# fractalkitty.com created /Template:fractalkitty (+169) "Created page with "<span class="h-card" style="white-space:nowrap">
{{sparkline|1=https://www.fractalkitty.com/content/images/2024/11/logo.png}} [[User:fractalkity.com|fractalkitty]]</span>"" (view diff)# [Sophia_wood] [gRegorLove] - perfect! this is a lot more clear and easy to follow - thanks so much!
# gRegor e.g. your user page is https://indieweb.org/User:Fractalkitty.com
# fractalkitty.com created /Template:FractalKitty (+169) "Created page with "<span class="h-card" style="white-space:nowrap">
{{sparkline|1=https://www.fractalkitty.com/content/images/2024/11/logo.png}} [[User:fractalkity.com|Fractalkitty]]</span>"" (view diff)# gregorlove.com edited /User:Gregorlove.com/sandbox (+106) "/* How to set up a personal template */ capitalization note" (view diff)
# [Sophia_wood] ok - so I have probably created an extra template because I can't type.
# [Sophia_wood] I think it's working now - this is totally not your well thought out instructions - It's me.
# [Sophia_wood] but it appears to be working