#meta 2025-06-06

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[tantek] seem to be ok now here too
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[tantek] what is _Cannot access the database_
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "_Cannot access the database_" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "_Cannot access the database_ is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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loqi.me created /Cannot_access_the_database (+53) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /Too_many_connections (+53) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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aaronpk Oh boy, probably another bot swarm
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tantek.com edited /Error_establishing_a_database_connection (+75) "add Cannot access the database: Too many connections variant to dfn" (view diff)
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osteophage.neocities.org edited /Glitch (+428) "created section for retrospectives" (view diff)
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osteophage.neocities.org edited /88x31 (+163) "added articles" (view diff)
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-06-06.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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osteophage.neocities.org edited /Bluesky (+132) "started converting some raw urls to descriptive link text" (view diff)
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[tantek] Should this go into testimonials? 😂 😂 😂 "the whole "indie web" thing just feel like a remixed version of MySpace..."
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[tantek] Via #indieweb-stream
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doesnm myspace is a some silo?
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[artlung] vague feelings make poor testimonials. I don't feel called to inquire for more details about it. If their feeling persists I'm guessing there will be a follow up hashtag usage. (I look forward to it!)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-06-06.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-06-06.html
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[tantek] [artlung] I read it as something simple that has mass appeal and easy to hack code :)
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[tantek] Also a bit of appeal to nostalgia
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[social] Seeing some of the IndieWeb wiki page stubs in the Newsletter, I may fill out a couple of them as I have notes on them in my personal notes.
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-06-06.html
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[tantek] Correction: more mass accessibility than mass appeal. MySpace had a strong vibe of GeoCities but even easier for a variety of folks to get started
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-06-06.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-06-06.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-06-06.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-06-06.html
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gregorlove.com edited /Last.fm (+921) "start Hack Days section" (view diff)
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gRegor ^ Started https://indieweb.org/Last.fm#Hack_Days from a quick chat with [tantek]
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[tantek] lastfm << Music Hack Day photos on Flickr: https://flickr.com/photos/tags/musichackday
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Loqi ok, I added "Music Hack Day photos on Flickr: https://flickr.com/photos/tags/musichackday" to the "See Also" section of /Last.fm https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=102248&oldid=102247
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-06-06.html
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gRegor !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2025/05/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-eO0OQOx0PSVn events/2025-05-21-hwc-europe
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cali-iwc Created https://indieweb.org/events/2025-05-21-hwc-europe. Please review the page to ensure the document is correctly formatted and remove any unnecessary text.
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cali.moe created /events/2025-05-21-hwc-europe (+4951) "Created event page using IndieWeb events / Etherpad archiver" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Template:Homebrew_Website_Club (+397) "+HWCs" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-06-06.html
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gregorlove.com edited /Template:Homebrew_Website_Club (+153) "upcoming June dates" (view diff)
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[artlung] What is faircamp?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "faircamp" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "faircamp is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[artlung] Faircamp is an all-in-one [[SSG]] for producing a static music site hostable anywhere, with soft paywall functionality.
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /Faircamp (+146) "prompted by [artlung] and dfn added by [artlung]" (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /Faircamp (+78) (view diff)
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[tantek] Faircamp << static site generator
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Loqi ok, I added "[[static site generator]]" to a brand new "See Also" section of /Faircamp https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=102255&oldid=102254
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loqi.me edited /Faircamp (+45) "[tantek] added "[[static site generator]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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[tantek] static site generator << Faircamp
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Loqi ok, I added "[[Faircamp]]" to the "See Also" section of /static_site_generator https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=102256&oldid=98842
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[tantek] ^ my attempt at linking some indieweb-relevance
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-06-06.html
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[tantek] have we talked about clustering HWC events by title? E.g. if you look at https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-06-06.html#upcoming-events it looks like A LOT of repetition
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[artlung] there's a faircamp webring https://webring.key13.uk/directory.html
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[tantek] neat! that's worth adding in a few place right? /webring examples maybe /directory
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[tantek] re: HWC repetition in newsletter, e.g. this:
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[tantek] https://chat-uploads.indieweb.org/files/2025/06/meta-20250606-193232-screen_shot_2025-06-06_at_12.31.22.png
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artlung.com edited /Faircamp (+108) (view diff)
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[tantek] whereas that could be algorithmically clustered (including the prior instance) into: Homebrew Web Website Club Europe/London <br/> Wednesdays at 7:00pm, June 11, 18, 25, and July 2, 12
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artlung.com edited /webring (+119) "/* Examples: Faircamp */" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-06-06.html
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aaronpk i thought i already had some clustering in there
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-06-06.html
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gregorlove.com edited /Faircamp (+13) "link dfn, note OS support" (view diff)
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-06-06.html
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tantek.com edited /Last.fm (-1) "move Flickr photos to Hackday section" (view diff)
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[tantek] aaronpk, yes, there's special case for events pages clustering on wiki pages created for past events
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[tantek] pretty sure there is no existing clustering for upcoming events
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aaronpk ah
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[tantek] it also strikes me as an area of under-developed algorithms
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[tantek] like when I clustered my likes on my home page, I had to think through and write a whole bunch of custom code to reason about the set of likes and how to "optimally" cluster them (de-duplicate the information presented) in a design/layout that was still readable, and still had enough text for linktext to individual post permalinks
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[tantek] clusters of similar "posts" (like responses) can have a bunch of aspects which are the same (date, in-reply-to (or site/author), reacji if any)
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loqi.me created /Speaker_Deck (+141) "prompted by [tantek] and dfn added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /SpeakerDeck (+25) "prompted by aaronpk and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /Speaker_Deck (+96) "[tantek] added "Example: {{aaronpk}}'s recent presentations: https://speakerdeck.com/aaronpk" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-06-06.html
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[tantek] looks good!
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tantek.com edited /Speaker_Deck (+52) "link dfn to their home page, start a generic Examples section, SA presentations" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Speaker_Deck (-1) "singular" (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /lab (+480) "/* IndieWeb Examples: Joe Crawford */" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /presentation (+73) "reveal used by Kevin, add Speaker Deck to silos" (view diff)