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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Internets" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Internets is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] Internets is /Wikipedia:Internet
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loqi.me created /Internets (+31) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
# Loqi The IndieWeb is a community of independent and personal websites based on the principles of: owning your domain and using it as your primary online identity, publishing on your own site first (optionally elsewhere), and owning your content https://indieweb.org/indie_web
# Loqi indie is short for “independent” and “independence” and is often used as a prefix to describe independent things or things designed for independents, such as indie rock, games, films, and of course, IndieWebCamp itself https://indieweb.org/indie
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mat.tl created /Category:Software_Forge (+146) "Created page with "A '''<dfn>software forge</dfn>''' is a platform that offers both source code hosting but also additional features like wikis, issue trackers, etc."" (view diff)
# mat.tl edited /IndieWeb_Movie_Club (+55) "external link to wikipedia seems like a good idea for any movie that has one" (view diff)
# Loqi A content management system (often abbreviated as CMS) is software used to create, enter, edit, update, delete content on websites; some CMSs are used for IndieWeb sites, see the tables on this page for current usage https://indieweb.org/CMS
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# Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-08-22.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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www.balonso.com deleted /User:Www.balonso.com "content was: "#REDIRECT [[User:Balonso.com]]", and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Www.balonso.com|Www.balonso.com]]" ([[User talk:Www.balonso.com|talk]])"
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# loqi.me created /sidecar_file (+33) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
# Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-08-22.html
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# Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-08-22.html
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# Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-08-22.html
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# mat.tl deleted /Category:indigenous "this category isn't used, it's for two apps, one has been renamed and one is discontinued."
# mat.tl edited /content_management_system (+81) "moved Ghost to the 'in-use' section. Suspect this page is very out of date." (view diff)
# Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-08-22.html
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# Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-08-22.html
# mat.tl edited /Mozilla_Spoke (+58) "added addyourself, categories. project is dead :(" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Template:stub (-16) "shorter stub wording (as previously, same as Wikipedia). Loqi also creates stubs so all this template can claim is "is"" (view diff)
# tantek.com edited /Mozilla_Spoke (+169) "link dfn to repo, change dfn to is open source since that's still true, move link to past live web editor to a History section" (view diff)
# Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-08-22.html
# mat.tl created /Template:php (+147) "making a template for php projects to easily categorize them" (view diff)
# tantek.com edited /iPhone (+209) "add indieweb relevance to dfn, completed to-do from SA, move android / posting links to See also, How to / How to design for subsections" (view diff)
# tantek.com edited /Progressive_Web_App (+508) "shorten & simplify PWA dfn and drop buzzwordy marketing pitch, add indieweb relevance to dfn, note a strawman Why, and an attempt at Why not" (view diff)
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# Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-08-22.html
# tantek.com edited /2000s (+502) "copy edit dfn a bit, expand silo examples section with stub years, split up events and movements into sublists with years and connections to indieweb, more confs & camps" (view diff)
# Loqi Composer is an open source package manager for PHP libraries that is used on some IndieWeb sites and services https://indieweb.org/Composer
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[KevinMarks] I'll have a think. A lot of the Foo energy was about web 2 when we could still hope that delegating via apis was useful and not a silo trap.
# tantek.com edited /2000s (+30) "adjust some founding/starting years based on Wikipedia, add hi5" (view diff)
# tantek.com created /Friendster (+34) "r to WIkipedia until someone wants to add a site-deaths entry, then we can redirect to that" (view diff)
# tantek.com created /hi5 (+27) "r to WIkipedia until someone wants to add a site-deaths entry, then we can redirect to that" (view diff)
# [KevinMarks] Post from benward I just refound https://benward.uk/blog/the-open-product
# Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-08-22.html
# Loqi The 2010s was a decade that began with emerging from the late 2000s financial crisis (not unlike the 2000s dotcom bust) and similarly a time when new web technologies and approaches to social media and personal websites emerged, notably microformats2 proposed at FOO East 2010, Federated Social Web Summit 2010, IndieWebCamps in starting in 2011 which established the IndieWeb community, and the invention of additional IndieWeb building blocks such as Webmention, Micropub, Microsub, and more https://indieweb.org/2010s
# mat.tl created /Template:Decade (+328) "Created page with "<includeonly>
{{Navbox |title = IndieWeb over the decades |state = uncollapsed |image = |above = Various years |rows = {{Navbox-row |title = Decades |content = [[1970s]] • [[1980s]] • [[1990s]] • [[2000s]] • [[2010s]] • [[2020s]] }} }} [[Category:Decade]] </includeonly><noinclude><pre>{{Decade}}</pre></noinclude>"" (view diff)memooo joined the channel
# Loqi The 2010s was a decade that began with emerging from the late 2000s financial crisis (similar to the 2000s dotcom bust) and also a time when new web technologies and approaches to social media and personal websites emerged, notably microformats2 at FOO East, SWAT0 at Federated Social Web Summit, and IndieWebCamp in 2011 establishing the IndieWeb community, and invention of IndieWeb building blocks Webmention, Micropub, Microsub, and more https://indieweb.org/2010s
# tantek.com edited /2010s (+40) "keep a See Also because otherwise Loqi will create one next time we add something, also simpler for prev/next nav for people" (view diff)
# Loqi The 2010s was a decade that began with emerging from the late 2000s financial crisis (similar to the 2000s dotcom bust) and also a time when new web technologies and approaches to social media and personal websites emerged, notably microformats2 at FOO East, SWAT0 at Federated Social Web Summit, and IndieWebCamp in 2011 establishing the IndieWeb community, and IndieWeb building blocks Webmention, Micropub, Microsub, and more https://indieweb.org/2010s
# Loqi ⛰️ IndieWeb Summit 2019 was the 9th IndieWeb Summit, held 2019-06-29…30 in Portland, Oregon, USA https://indieweb.org/2019/
# Loqi 🎪 IndieWebCamp San Diego 2024 will be the second IndieWebCamp in San Diego (AKA IWC SD), the weekend of December 7-8th, 2024 https://indieweb.org/2024/SD
# Loqi The 2010s was a decade that began with emerging from the late 2000s financial crisis (similar to the 2000s dotcom bust) and also a time when new web technologies and approaches to social media and personal websites emerged, notably microformats2 at FOO East, SWAT0 at Federated Social Web Summit, and IndieWebCamp 2011 establishing the IndieWeb community, and key building blocks like Webmention, Micropub, and Microsub https://indieweb.org/2010s
# Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-08-22.html
# [tantek] [mattl] I'd drop the "IWCs in 2020s" etc. line, if you click through it's only depressing and it's a worse experience than the existing https://indieweb.org/Template:indiewebcamps nav
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[mattl] Wow people on Simple WIkipedia do not want a history of the Internet article. https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet
# loqi.me created /IWC_Berlin_2024 (+24) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
# Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-08-22.html
# tantek.com edited /1970s (-109) "rewrite dfn to only indieweb relevance, "before idea of web" is false (V. Bush), rest of general history should be in Wikipedia, not here, wikilink to Wikipedia instead" (view diff)
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# tantek.com edited /Homebrew_Website_Club (+281) "/* Regular Meetings */ stub Düsseldorf" (view diff)
# Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-08-22.html
# [tantek] Planet << [[Wikipedia:Planet (software)]]
# Loqi ok, I added "[[Wikipedia:Planet (software)]]" to the "See Also" section of /planet https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=103896&oldid=102809
# tantek.com edited /tilde (+135) "add some more direct indieweb relevance to dfn. move second sentence to another paragraph" (view diff)
# Loqi A tilde is a community on a shared *nix server usually run by hobbyists or other independents, and a few IndieWeb community members have accounts on tilde servers; the network of these servers is a or the tildeverse https://indieweb.org/tilde
# [tantek] tilde << [[Wikipedia:Tilde#Directories_and_URLs]]
# Loqi ok, I added "[[Wikipedia:Tilde#Directories_and_URLs]]" to the "See Also" section of /tilde https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=103899&oldid=103898
# tantek.com edited /www (+419) "Undo edit which lost indieweb relevance from dfn and removed useful content, add update to no need for www for CNAME, https no-www, and yes-www site is dead" (view diff)
# tantek.com edited /lost_sites (+104) "/* Other Examples */ www.yes-www is dead. Good riddance" (view diff)
# tantek.com edited /BBS () "(-571) no indieweb relevance in 8 years, redirect to Wikipedia to avoid this being a poorer & unmaintained version of what's already at Wikipedia" (view diff)
# Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-08-22.html
# tantek.com edited /1980s (-208) "indieweb relevant dfn, replace general non-indieweb-specific history with links to Wikipedia wikilinks instead (let's not maintain a poorer unmaintained copy of info on Wikipedia). completed respective to-do points 1 and 2." (view diff)
# tantek.com moved /Internet to /User:Mat.tl/Internet "move non-indieweb specific article to user space for development until it is indieweb-focused/specific, to avoid a non-indieweb article going out in the newsletter"
# Loqi The 1980s was a decade when several IndieWeb community members were born and when a particularly colorful aesthetic was popularized that has subsequently seen adoption in nostalgia contexts, like the Homebrew Website Club logo https://indieweb.org/1980s
# [tantek] [mattl] most of the new articles you created I went to the effort of fixing the dfns to be IndieWeb relevant and improved upon them, it would have been easier to delete or redirect them to Wikipedia. I put the new "Internet" article in your User: space to work on it rather than delete it. "BBS" was an old article that had multiple contributors and given the 8 years lack of interest in making it indieweb-relevant, that seemed long enough of
# tantek.com edited /Homebrew_Website_Club (+44) "merge Düsseldorf, move from upcoming to regular! also move Edinburgh up to regular, and different subsections for in-person vs virtual-only" (view diff)
# [tantek] capjamesg, can you review https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club#Edinburgh ?
# tantek.com edited /Homebrew_Website_Club (+0) "/* Edinburgh */ Emeritus organizer same phrasing as NUR" (view diff)
# tantek.com edited /Homebrew_Website_Club (+176) "/* Cities getting started */ Bangalore needs evidence to be considered "real" otherwise could just be someone creating stuff on the internet" (view diff)
# tantek.com moved /Apple_Safari to /User:Mat.tl/Apple_Safari "move non-indieweb specific article to user space for development until it is indieweb-focused/specific, to avoid a non-indieweb article going out in the newsletter"
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gRegor Bluesky << [https://bsky.social/about/blog/08-22-2025-mississippi-hb1126 Our Response to Mississippi’s Age Assurance Law]
# Loqi ok, I added "[https://bsky.social/about/blog/08-22-2025-mississippi-hb1126 Our Response to Mississippi’s Age Assurance Law]" to the "See Also" section of /Bluesky https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=103913&oldid=103254
# Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-08-22.html
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# Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-08-22.html