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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+176) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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[artlung] what is rsl?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "rsl" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "rsl is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[artlung] https://rslstandard.org/press/rsl-standard is that. I was saying to someone on one of the chats this week about an effort around this. I want to like it but also deeply skeptical it can constructively change things for the problem of rampant, disrespectful trampling bots on the web.
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[artlung] (not looking to make an rsl page, and also mad I never made a page on the wiki to start documenting the problem of "ai bots and scrapers causing problems for the open web" for which there is much in the ways of articles, documented effects, tools to mitigate, cultural responses, etc.
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tantek.com edited /Organizers (-10) "recent avail for chat -> additional" (view diff)
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[artlung] !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2025/09/homebrew-website-club-eastern-c3N93hNdSNx3
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cali-iwc-archive Created https://indieweb.org/events/2025-09-10-hwc-eastern. Please review the page to ensure the document is correctly formatted and remove any unnecessary text.
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cali.jamesg.blog created /events/2025-09-10-hwc-eastern (+6161) "Created event page using IndieWeb events / Etherpad archiver" (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /events/2025-09-10-hwc-eastern (+0) (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /events/2025-09-10-hwc-eastern (-123) "cleanup" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (-10) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /events/2025-09-10-hwc-eastern (+25) "/* Playlists */" (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /events/2025-09-10-hwc-eastern (+55) "/* Modern uses for PGP */" (view diff)
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aaronpk wow a pull request to add codeberg to indielogin.com! https://github.com/aaronpk/indielogin.com/pull/139/files
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[tantek] woot!
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Loqi giggles
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osteophage.neocities.org edited /cohost.org (+2) "past tense" (view diff)
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osteophage.neocities.org edited /cohost.org (+367) "added wiki links, converted raw urls to descriptive link text" (view diff)
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Loqi [github] Successfully deployed aaronpk/indielogin.com to https://indielogin.com
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[benji] Anybody else seeing DBConnectionError on the wiki?
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aaronpk uhoh
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aaronpk fixed
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aaronpk weird, it just crashed
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[benji] Its gone now. Ignore my previous message
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Loqi [github] Successfully deployed aaronpk/indielogin.com to https://indielogin.com
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aaronpk indielogin.com now supports codeberg!
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[tantek] Wow!
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capjamesg aaronpk++ Nice!
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Loqi aaronpk has 38 karma in this channel over the last year (116 in all channels)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (-333) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /Template:next-hwc (+0) "update next date from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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[tantek] aaronpk++ great turnaround. I suggest replying to https://wetdry.world/@chailotl/115183587637296494
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Loqi aaronpk has 39 karma in this channel over the last year (117 in all channels)
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aaronpk oh good find
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doesnm i saw this person on spacebar 👀
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[tantek] via #indieweb-stream !
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tantek.com edited /TSS (+479) "repair GigaOM link with IA, separate posts for TSS vs hackfest" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /TSS (+4) "domain is jsdr" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /TSS (+476) "/* Posts */ blockquote Rohit's comment on the GigaOM article" (view diff)
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doesnm anyone have tss screenshot?
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capjamesg Yes, 2 mins.
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capjamesg https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/866577502586273792/1415771398714163230/Screenshot_2025-09-11_at_19.29.39.png?ex=68c46b5d&is=68c319dd&hm=5adbc399f2d9a65e39989548a806a564fadfc6e600a64f8344c04cbbe06269ac&
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IWDiscord <c​apjamesg>
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[tantek] ^ doesnm that's from a realtime TSS playground, you can go play with it yourself
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[tantek] linked in the page
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[tantek] lol I found an IndieWeb relevant connection to Twitter Chirp conference in 2010. amazing. see if you can find it (obv) in this 2010-04-14 photo: https://flickr.com/photos/tantek/5140137526
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[tantek] might be the first commercial service to launch in-reply-to API support
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tantek.com edited /timeline (+225) "2010-04-14 in_reply_to first commercial API support by Twitter" (view diff)
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capjamesg What is TSS?
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Loqi TSS is Twitter Style Sheets or Text Style Sheets, a compressed form of CSS applicable to short bits of text, suitable for storing in very small fields like 512 bytes https://indieweb.org/TSS
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capjamesg TSS << {{capjamesg}} published a [https://jamesg.blog/tss TSS document on his website].
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capjamesg [edit] TSS << {{capjamesg}} published a [https://jamesg.blog/tss TSS document on his website].
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Loqi ok, I added "{{capjamesg}} published a [https://jamesg.blog/tss TSS document on his website]." to the "See Also" section of /TSS https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=104423&oldid=104421
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Loqi Sorry, I couldn't find a page named "[edit] TSS" or similar
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doesnm i can't find link to playground
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capjamesg https://xent.com/rtf
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doesnm seems not working. Ok, nevermins
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capjamesg Yeah it takes a bit of getting used to.
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capjamesg I had that same first experience.
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tantek.com edited /timeline (+706) "1977 terminology in-reply-to introduced in RFC724, 1982 RFC822 date formats used by RSS, 2006 in-reply-to element in Atom Threading Extensions" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /timeline (+11) "/* 2010 */ API support in a commercial social web service" (view diff)
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[tantek] what was Chirp
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Chirp" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Chirp is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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capjamesg [edit] TSS << {{capjamesg}} published a [https://jamesg.blog/tss TSS document on his website].
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Loqi Sorry, I couldn't find a page named "[edit] TSS" or similar
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[tantek] Chirp was a [[Twitter]] developer conference 2010-04-14…15 where they announced support for [[in-reply-to|in_reply_to]] API on tweets, the first commercial social web service to do so. Photo: https://flickr.com/photos/tantek/5140137526. IndieWeb community attendees: {{t}}, [[Joël Franusic]].
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /Chirp (+322) "prompted by [tantek] and dfn added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /Chirp (+103) "[tantek] added "Photo by {{t}} of [[jf]]: https://flickr.com/photos/tantek/5139535587/in/datetaken/" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /timeline (+1) "/* 2006 */ 5" (view diff)
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[tantek] I have a feeling I am going to end up documenting the full set of even semi-influential Web 2.0 conferences (early 2000s - mid 2010s) because they nearly all had threads that were woven into IndieWeb
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[tantek] most of them are "not notable enough" to have their own Wikipedia pages
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[tantek] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Twitter doesn't even mention Chirp
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loqi.me created /terminal_mode (+27) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /terminal_green (+24) "linky 1970s" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /events/2025-08-13-hwc-europe (+40) "clean up some code formatting, smaller images" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /1970s (+232) "connect dfn to origins of terminal green aesthetic" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Sunlit (+4) "https a few URLs" (view diff)
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[KevinMarks] Chirp was pretty significant because they basically nerfed developer tools afterwards
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[KevinMarks] Chirp << https://youtu.be/rT3ds5xSk4A?si=GlFJm-VVOXM9m7C0
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Loqi ok, I added "https://youtu.be/rT3ds5xSk4A?si=GlFJm-VVOXM9m7C0" to the "See Also" section of /Chirp https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=104438&oldid=104429
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[tantek] [KevinMarks] were you in town for Chirp? None of my photos had you in them
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gRegor what is keybase
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Loqi Keybase is an unmaintained GPG key silo acquired by Zoom in 2020, though it does support the rel-me IndieWeb building block, and was used by a few community members https://indieweb.org/keybase
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