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[tantek] what is a story
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Loqi A story is a singular (one per profile) time stream collection post, that consists of ephemeral photo and video posts that are shown in sequence one at a time and disappear from the collection some time after being added, usually 24 hours https://indieweb.org/story
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[tantek] is that really true that reels are short form content any more? I feel I have seen reels of many minutes of duration recently
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aaronpk depends on your definition of "short" i guess
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aaronpk still shorter than the average youtube video, TV show, and movies
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[tantek] aaronpk, I think the challenge is one of trying to make a meaningful distinction for "short" when there is such a spectrum, from a 4s vine videos, to maybe 10s of Strava video attachments to activities, to ~15s videos in IG stories, to minutes in IG reels or video posts (e.g. in a carousel), to weird vertical YouTube, to landscape YouTube videos, tv shows, movies etc.
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[tantek] where does it make sense to meaningfully draw the line at which of those is "short"?
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[tantek] pre-social media, movie theaters had the notion of "shorts" shown before featured presentations
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aaronpk oh yea those were also called shorts huh
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[artlung] the definitions ought to account for the ambiguity of usage of the term
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[artlung] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short-form_content
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[artlung] I feel better with reel not just forwarding to instagram
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[artlung] but am open to clarification and noting the overlap/spectrum from reel to story
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[tantek] I agree with reducing the redirection of generic concepts to silo pages
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[tantek] there is perhaps an opportunity to distinguish short videso from /video posts similar to how we distinguish /note vs /article posts
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Loqi osteophage has 4 karma in this channel over the last year (19 in all channels)
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[artlung] osteophage++ thank you for adding to that page!
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osteophage Thank you as well. :)
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[snarfed] how do I log out of the wiki?
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artlung.com edited /large_language_model_traffic (+294) "/* Tools to combat */ editing the quote, adding … ellipses. formatting on block quotes sure takes a lot of space inside lists. not good on information dense pages." (view diff)
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[snarfed] struggling to find a logout button or link
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[artlung] I have deleted cookies. And I have clicked bottom left login, and forced login to fail.
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[snarfed] wow
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[artlung] This stretches the reasonable definition of "UX."
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[tantek] Hotel IndieWeb 😆
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[artlung] Regrettable UX.
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aaronpk why would you ever want to log out lol
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[artlung] https://github.com/Data-Provenance-Initiative/Data-Provenance-Collection is an interesting idea, but appears not to have done anything in a year. not sure what to make of that.
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gRegor what is fail2ban
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Loqi fail2ban is a utility that bans logins from IP addresses that show signs of malicious activity (like many failed login attempts) https://indieweb.org/fail2ban
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gRegor server might be struggling. Mediawiki hasn't refreshed from the editing screen for that on my end yet ^
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gRegor There is goes
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gRegor about 30 seconds
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gRegor *there it goes
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gRegor There's wiki links on /fail2ban that need to be updated, looks like they're only using Github and its wiki pages now instead of the Mediawiki that used to be on their domain
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gRegor If anyone wants to track those down and update
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gRegor ^ Think that's a reasonable state for the page for now, will leave it to anyone with experience to expand. Especially if you have any posts you're written on your site about it :)
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