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[Al_Abut] Looks good to me! I recorded a quick audio script of the microformats explainer this morning, I liked how that came out and was looking for a time window to shoot a video version of it. I can make that my gift for tomorrow, since we had HWC today.
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[tantek] that's a solid gift!
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unearth.im created /archaeobytology (+2527) "Created page: defining Archaeobytology, a framework for digital decay, link rot, and semantic stewardship." (view diff)
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capjamesg Should we delete that page? I haven't heard of that topic coming up in chat or at an event before.
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[tantek] Yeah
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[tantek] Link to indieweb relevance in your delete comment
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jamesg.blog deleted /archaeobytology "this page is not relevant to the indieweb, see https://indieweb.org/relevant_to_the_IndieWeb_wiki for relevance criteria"
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capjamesg Done.
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capjamesg !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2025/12/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-CmbdRQwc5T90#photos
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capjamesg [edit] !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2025/12/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-CmbdRQwc5T90#photos
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cali-iwc-archive Created https://indieweb.org/events/2025-12-10-hwc-europe. Please review the page to ensure the document is correctly formatted and remove any unnecessary text.
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cali.jamesg.blog created /events/2025-12-10-hwc-europe (+6101) "Created event page using IndieWeb events / Etherpad archiver" (view diff)
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jamesg.blog edited /events/2025-12-10-hwc-europe (-238) "clean up formatting" (view diff)
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artlung.com uploaded /File:2025-12-11-FrESH-Group-Photo.jpg "Group Photo https://indieweb.org/File:2025-12-11-FrESH-Group-Photo.jpg"
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-popups (-10) "update from https://events.indieweb.org/tag/popup" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /photo (+570) "/* How to markup */ section-stub, pass at improving the phrasing on when and when-not, +alt text placeholder, separate example for u-photo on link" (view diff)
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gRegor From some #microformats chat, led me to make this update^ Feedback appreciated! https://indieweb.org/photo#How_to_markup
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gRegor [Al_Abut], since you're working on this stuff with fresh eyes ^^
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[artlung] !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2025/12/front-end-study-hall-042-LigeiRVr3XOn
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cali.jamesg.blog created /events/2025-12-11-front-end-study-hall (+4716) "Created event page using IndieWeb events / Etherpad archiver" (view diff)
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cali-iwc-archive Created https://indieweb.org/events/2025-12-11-front-end-study-hall. Please review the page to ensure the document is correctly formatted and remove any unnecessary text.
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gRegor [artlung]++
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Loqi [artlung] has 33 karma in this channel over the last year (205 in all channels)
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artlung.com edited /events/2025-12-11-front-end-study-hall (+0) "mini cleanup" (view diff)
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gRegor Bummed I missed #42! The FrESH that answers the ultimate question to life, the universe, and everything CSS
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gRegor events/2025-12-11-front-end-study-hall << [[42]]
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Loqi ok, I added "[[42]]" to a new "See Also" section of /events/2025-12-11-front-end-study-hall https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=106527&oldid=106526
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loqi.me edited /events/2025-12-11-front-end-study-hall (+26) "gRegor added "[[42]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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gRegor dogfooding << [https://gerben.dev/posts/raccoonfooding Raccoonfooding] <blockquote>"Instead of using your own products and services, you intend to use your friends creations."</blockquote>
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Loqi ok, I added "[https://gerben.dev/posts/raccoonfooding Raccoonfooding] <blockquote>"Instead of using your own products and services, you intend to use your friends creations."</blockquote>" to the "See Also" section of /dogfood https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=106528&oldid=101345
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artlung.com edited /Front_End_Study_Hall (+139) "adding 2025 12/11 #042 ... Don't Panic" (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /events/2025-12-11-front-end-study-hall (+32) "testing inclusion of group photo" (view diff)
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artlung.com created /Template:FrESH_Photo (+138) "Created page with "File:2025-12-11-FrESH-Group-Photo.jpg|thumb|none|alt=Group photo|[[events/2025-12-11-front-end-study-hall|2025-12-11: Meeting #042 Notes]]"" (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /Template:FrESH_Photo (+36) (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /Template:FrESH_Photo (-63) "pass date parameter?" (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /Template:FrESH_Photo (+22) "more experimenting with parameter" (view diff)
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[artlung] [gRegorLove]++ a hoopy frood
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gRegor :)
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artlung.com edited /Template:FrESH_Photo (+49) (view diff)
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gRegor Hm, I suspect custom tags like `gallery` might not parse right if it's included via a template. Seems it should be possible, but not sure how
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gRegor Maybe if there's a ParserFunction version of it, or something similar
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gRegor Other option would be for the Fresh Photo template to just include the HTML it needs. https://indieweb.org/streak#Duolingo is an example of what hte gallery tag generates
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gRegor It could probably be simplified if it's always one photo, too. `gallery` tag's power is more if you need multiple photos
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artlung.com edited /Template:FrESH_Photo (+4) "testing checking for param" (view diff)
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artlung.com deleted /Template:FrESH_Photo "content was: "{{#if:{{{date|}}}| [[File:{{{date}}}-FrESH-Group-Photo.jpg|frame|none|alt=Group photo|Group Photo {{{date}}}]]|}}", and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Artlung.com|Artlung.com]]" ([[User talk:Artlung.com|talk]])"
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artlung.com created /FrESH_Photo (+113) "derp. Joe experiments" (view diff)
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artlung.com moved /FrESH_Photo to /Template:FrESH_Photo
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[artlung] apologies for the meta noise. I was prematurely optimizing and deleted my work. and yes, it works!
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artlung.com edited /Template:Front_End_Study_Hall/doc (+113) "/* Parameters */" (view diff)
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artlung.com moved /File:2024-06-06-FrESH-004.jpg to /File:2024-06-06-FrESH-Group-Photo.jpg
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artlung.com edited /events/2024-12-17-front-end-study-hall (+16) "date param!" (view diff)
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gRegor awesome! and np, it's part of what meta is for
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gRegor Sometimes I make a sub-page of my User page for templates in progress. Can mark the edits as minor so they don't show up here.
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gRegor You can use curly brackets to transclude any page, doesn't have to be in the Template namespace, so that works well for testing.
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gRegor Like this section: https://indieweb.org/User:Gregorlove.com/sandbox#IWC_session_links
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[artlung] !tell capjamesg[d] to look at https://github.com/capjamesg/indieweb-etherpad-archiver/pull/10
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [preview] [artlung] #10 Adding date pass-through for FrESH events (to show a photo whose name is predictable)
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