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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-12-12.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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capjamesg !archive help
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capjamesg !archive help
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cali-iwc-archive Usage: !archive <event page URL or Etherpad URL> (<events/wiki-url>)?
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capjamesg [artlung] Your changes are now all deployed!
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vanderven.se martijn edited /Immich (+466) "See Also: post on how to migrate all photos from Apple Photos library" (view diff)
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www.jeremycherfas.net edited /photo (+2) "/* How to markup */ Slightly easier wording (for me)" (view diff)
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[jeremycherfas] Re ^^^ is there a case for suggesting `u-featured` on one photo in an article with multiple photos?
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-popups (-165) "update from https://events.indieweb.org/tag/popup" (view diff)
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www.jeremycherfas.net edited /photo (+386) "/* How to markup */ Adding use case for u-featured" (view diff)
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[jeremycherfas] Answered my own question.
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artlung capjamesg[d]++ thanks for the quick merge James. Very happy with adding group photos from each FrESH to the notes. Fun to learn to pass a parameter into a template and use it. Syntax is weird, but doable!
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-12-12.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-12-12.html
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www.jeremycherfas.net edited /WriteMonkey (+106) "Expanded definition and updated link" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-12-12.html
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+196) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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www.jeremycherfas.net edited /Blaine_Cook (+127) "Expanded definition" (view diff)
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[Al_Abut] Ooo, I’d love to add the group photo from the photo popup to the newsletter. How do we do that?
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capjamesg Upload it via the "Add Photo" link in the dropdown on the events page:
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capjamesg https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/866577502586273792/1449087871603708077/Screenshot_2025-12-12_at_17.17.31.png?ex=693d9fbf&is=693c4e3f&hm=016b43b7aa2c4e772ca85f218a62c38df141e252a3fd551e63d6d9092d24693b&
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capjamesg https://events.indieweb.org/2025/12/photography-popup-1-OaWgUHup1PkG
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capjamesg [edit] https://events.indieweb.org/2025/12/photography-popup-1-OaWgUHup1PkG
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[Al_Abut] It's already there, I meant to the newsletter
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capjamesg The newsletter should automatically populate it...
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capjamesg Ah it looks like you added it to the description.
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capjamesg It needs to be added via the "Add Photo" page: https://events.indieweb.org/event/931/photo
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[Al_Abut] Ah, ok, on it.
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[Al_Abut] Also I don’t see an edit button for the newsletter, lemme switch away from my ipad
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[Al_Abut] Also also the IWCSD graphic keeps repeating instead of showing the custom headers for each of the events. I’ll see if I can make those edits if I get the edit button to show elsewhere.
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capjamesg All the newsletter things happen automatically based on the event page.
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[Al_Abut] Ah, then why isn’t it pulling the headers?
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[Al_Abut] And where is it getting that one that’s repeating?
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capjamesg aaronpk maybe there is a caching issue?
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capjamesg The beer garden event has its own graphic but it's not showing up...
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gRegor What are you seeing repeating? https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-12-12.html
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[Al_Abut] Should be showing these two, right?
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[Al_Abut] https://chat-uploads.indieweb.org/files/2025/12/meta-20251212-172345-image_from_ios.jpg
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[Al_Abut] https://chat-uploads.indieweb.org/files/2025/12/meta-20251212-172345-image_from_ios.jpg
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capjamesg And the photo walk too.
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gRegor Ah I see it now
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www.jeremycherfas.net edited /Robert_Scoble_Effect (+158) "Extra information." (view diff)
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gRegor Guessing it's because they're "sub" events of IWC, relatively new feature
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[Al_Abut] This one shows up three times
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[Al_Abut] https://chat-uploads.indieweb.org/files/2025/12/meta-20251212-172454-image_from_ios.jpg
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[Al_Abut] Oh, the group photo in the event is hotlinking to my site! haha, forgot I did that
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gRegor https://events.indieweb.org/2025/12/photo-walk-san-diego-mUpZGCyayCTF arrow at top right > Add Photo
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gRegor wrong photo event, but same directions haha
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gRegor Correct event lol https://events.indieweb.org/2025/12/photography-popup-1-OaWgUHup1PkG
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[Al_Abut] Just added it
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gRegor nice!
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[artlung] so yeah, I did a thing where I cross linked the main camp with the beer and photo events Al. Sent a webmention to them. I _like_ the cross link, but not that it also pulls in the banner from the main camp.
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[artlung] or, wait, is that because they're sub events, I may be misunderstanding why those are there
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[artlung] [Al_Abut] thanks for adding the photo, a nice addition. love that you're all taking photos at the photo event
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-12-12.html
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gregorlove.com edited /writing (+64) "/* Gregor Morrill */ update" (view diff)
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gRegor [artlung], I think it's sub-events, something we might need to fix in the TWII code that generates the newsletter
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gRegor what is twii
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Loqi This Week in the IndieWeb is a weekly digest of activities of the IndieWeb community https://indieweb.org/twii
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gRegor https://github.com/indieweb/this-week/blob/main/generate-events-summary.php#L66
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gRegor At a glance though, nothing pops out. Looks like it should be parsing the individual event page, sub or not, and finding the photo
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gRegor !mf2 https://events.indieweb.org/2025/12/beer-garden-san-diego-ZNZ0Bj32VgNn
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Kaja https://php.microformats.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fevents.indieweb.org%2F2025%2F12%2Fbeer-garden-san-diego-ZNZ0Bj32VgNn
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gRegor oh hm, the photo at the top of the event has `u-featured`. The added photos below have `u-photo`. I think TWII only uses u-photo
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gRegor This is odd
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gRegor I think the fix should be TWII prefers the `featured` property if it's in the mf2, otherwise falls back to first `photo` property
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gRegor Right now I think the only reason the main IWC SD event in the newsletter shows the header is because of Chris Aldrich's *response*, the image that appears under the RSVPs and has `u-photo` on it.
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gRegor I'm not sure how we haven't run into this before, heh. Unless adding a featured image also automatically adds it in the responses section too
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gRegor Hm, scratch that proposed logic. The u-photo is preferable for the newsletter once an event has passed, that's why the FrESH group photo shows up, not the featured image.
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gRegor Upcoming events should prefer the featured image.
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gRegor Past events should prefer the `photo` and fallback to `featured`.
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gRegor I think that's correct :)
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gRegor I'll distill that thought process into a simpler github issue, haha
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gRegor https://github.com/indieweb/this-week/issues/28
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gRegor [artlung], Did you happen to add those via "Add Sub-Events" on the events page, or did you create separate events and then manually link them from the IWC SD event?
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gRegor Noticing different behavior on https://events.indieweb.org/2025/11/-indiewebcamp-berlin-oNMvxRpOvfEs which used sub-events
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gRegor IWC looks like separate events, that would explain the webmention from IWC SD event -> Beer Garden event
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gRegor Not urgent. Unlikely we'll have this fixed today.
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[artlung] what *I* did was add links to the events from the main event, then send webmentions
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gRegor Ok, makes sense.
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[artlung] it seemed like a good idea at the time
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-12-12.html
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gRegor It's a fine idea! :) Just ran into an edge case with newsletter code
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gRegor repeating the IWC SD logo isn't the worst thing
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gRegor If we really don't want those on the sub-events in the newsletter, we can remove those responses on the events site. Those upcoming events would go out without a photo, though.
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gRegor Compare with last week's, most upcoming events haven't included a photo, because no responses with photos existed: https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-12-05.html
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[Al_Abut] So today is the day I learned there are such a thing as sub-events. I’ll set up spinoff social stuff that way next time.
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[Al_Abut] But yeah, it would be nice to have the custom headers I made for the one off events to show up in the newsletter for propriety
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[Al_Abut] (If possible with a minor correction somewhere)
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[Al_Abut] Like, can I recategorize the events as sub-events after the fact?
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-12-12.html
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gRegor It's pretty new, only introduced for Berlin event :)
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gRegor [Al_Abut], No need to change the events I think
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-12-12.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-12-12.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-12-12.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-12-12.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-12-12.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-12-12.html
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-12-12.html
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-12-12.html
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[tantek] I like the multiple IWC San Diego images personally because it really goes strong with what's going on this weekend 😆