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[artlung] what is fediverse?
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Loqi federation in the context of the IndieWeb refers to services and features that work directly between IndieWeb sites peer-to-peer, without having to setup or create accounts in both places, without a centralized service or silo bottleneck, with perhaps the exceptions of both DNS and Bridgy Fed, the latter an open source ActivityPub proxy many use to federate with Mastodon https://indieweb.org/fediverse
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[artlung] I'm not a fan of the way the redirect flattens the definition to federation. I think Fediverse has a specific meaning that is ill-served by that page.
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[tantek] Maybe a subsection with heading that focuses on the indieweb-specific aspects and then links to Wikipedia:Fediverse for that broader "specific meaning"?
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[tantek] (The redirect was also a way to avoid all the "no true Scotsman" fights about what "Fediverse" meant, which software, which protocols etc because the term predates Masto and AP for example)
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[tantek] (Historically its meaning has been a squishy mess with many claimants)
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[artlung] Yes! I love a term which resists disambiguation. It tends to be where lots of human effort and activity lives. But it makes it more work to talk about,
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[artlung] More work to talk about _with precision_.
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[tantek] Maybe. Sometimes. In this instance it's also seemingly tied to (or occupied by?) unusually argumentative cultures, which tend to be a net negative of emotional labor
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[artlung] Advocacy requires argument. The spectrum of rhetorical argumentation runs from the best of us to the absolute worst of us. Let us all seek to argue with comity.
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[artlung] (It ain't easy)
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[tantek] We can seek that all we want. When you're outnumbered by an argumentative mob, you lose and you're drained
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[tantek] Better folks have been defeated. [snarfed], [manton], and of course one of the earliest canaries of fedirage, Wil Wheaton
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loqi.me edited /pull_quote (+85) "[tantek] added "add a "Why not" section summarizing and citing {{adactio}}'s post" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+10) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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gRegor ironically, one of the first pull quote examples on my site was an adactio quote, haha. Looks like I've only used them a few times. However, they appear to all be text that is not in the article itself, like a quote from a video or a song I'm recommending. https://gregorlove.com/2013/05/the-long-web-haul/
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gRegor I guess they're just quotes that visually look like pull quotes then
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gregorlove.com edited /pull_quote (+533) "+IndieWeb Examples" (view diff)
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[tantek] Yeah a pull quote is a self quote
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[tantek] Otherwise it's just a quote
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[tantek] It's "pulled" (out) from elsewhere in the article/page
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gRegor realized I needed to tweak the CSS on them, so it's looking much more like it initially did now
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gRegor And also find another version of that adactio video, the vimeo link died
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[tantek] Vimeo 🫗
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gRegor there we go. published 2013, updated 2026 haha
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[capjamesg] !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2026/05/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-KTrfmhEjPN1c
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jamesg.blog created /events/2026-05-20-hwc-europe (+6827) "Created event page using IndieWeb events / Etherpad archiver" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /events/2026-05-20-hwc-europe (+51) "slight edit to what I fixed, linky" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /featured (+369) "cleanup, note use with h-event as well, +Meetable example, +github discussions" (view diff)
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paultibbetts.uk edited /events/2026-05-20-hwc-europe (+139) "wiki formatting" (view diff)
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