#meta 2026-09-12

2026-09-12 UTC
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[aciccarello] This sounds similar to the bot traffic we've seen on the wiki
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[aciccarello] Rubenerd: MediaWiki-specific crawler spam https://www.rubenerd.au/mediawiki-specific-crawler-spam/
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[tantek] I can't tell if the Pointverse posts are well intended but awkwardly unaware of indieweb or clumsy spam (copy pasta across channels). Thoughts?
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aaronpk awkwardly unaware, blatant self-promo
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aaronpk not driveby spam like others
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thamara_k Thought the same aaronpk
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[tantek] Alright I'll try asking questions to see if this can be steered in a more community aligned direction
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doesnm their promotion are quite annoying
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[tantek] Do you remember what it was like to be 15 (presuming that's true) and looking for approval from peers?
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doesnm curious about last error. Seems it's after restarting (i updated) https://vb.doesnmlab.xyz/attachments/1548330823076282368/Screenshot_20260912-165328.png
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doesnm sorry wrong window
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doesnm [tantek]: i didn't count but this folk posted link multiplie times
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lesleylai I can imagine myself doing weird things when I was 15
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doesnm i'm 22 yo
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[tantek] Yes I noticed the multiple times
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[capjamesg] I think using a light touch is the right approach.
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artlung.com edited /typewriter (+79) "/* IndieWebCamps */ Chris Aldrich brought typewriters" (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /typewriter (+66) "/* IndieWebCamps */ https://boffosocko.com/2024/12/08/typewriters-as-proof-of-life/" (view diff)
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WinnerWind hey, indieweb merch idea: enamel pins
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WinnerWind cheap to manufacture, easy to find vendors for, but also super unique and memorable
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jshmnrd.ca edited /User:Jshmnrd.ca/common.css () "(-12720) Blanked the page" (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /discuss (+170) "/* Spam */ added section on apps and websites" (view diff)
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gRegor Good addition
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jshmnrd.ca created /User:Jshmnrd.ca (+1109) "Initial commit" (view diff)
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[capjamesg] doesnm See https://github.com/indieweb/indieweb-chat-archive/pull/136/changes for an example of how to delete from the logs.
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gRegor https://indieweb.org/discuss_infrastructure#How-to_remove_spam
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gRegor what is remove spam
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "remove spam" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "remove spam is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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gregorlove.com created /remove_spam (+55) "r" (view diff)
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aaronpk i'm a big fan of enamel pins
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aaronpk the main problem with them as merch is there aren't really "print on demand" services for enamel pins like there are for a lot of other things, so it requires someone actually buys a bunch up front and deals with shipping out orders
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aaronpk if you know of an on-demand enamel pin vendor I will happily set it up!
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doesnm34 aaropk: should i clone whole repo history to clean logs?
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[artlung] doesnm34 when I've done this I've done full clones. yes, it's large.
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gRegor doesnm34: there's steps on the wiki https://indieweb.org/discuss_infrastructure#How-to_remove_spam
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gRegor you can do it almost entirely in the github web UI
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gRegor Ignore the freenode bit at the bottom there. I'll update that
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[artlung] _(strong case for why gRegor is smarter than me there, I have never thought to do that despite those handy edit / make a pull request buttons inside GitHub and other source control websites)_
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[tantek] Yes I always use the GitHub web UI to create PRs to remove spam from the chat logs
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gregorlove.com edited /discuss_infrastructure (+124) "/* How-to remove spam */ separate section for archived Freenode steps" (view diff)
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[tantek] The whole clone entirety to make an edit thing is kinda silly tbh (and massively user-unfriendly). Imagine if you had to clone Wikipedia to edit it. It would have gotten nowhere
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gRegor Wasn't sure about deleting the Freenode stuff outright, so put it in a separate section with an archived note ^^
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[Morgan_M] I might add some basic links and a paragraph that the process is forking the repository, making changes, and submitting them as a PR with links to generic Github Docs
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[tantek] I'd advise against that as both forking and generic GitHub docs are very dev-centric and frankly user-unfriendly. Both have too much excess "ceremony" for simple text file edits
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[Morgan_M] Hmm, sure. It seemed like a dev-y person was asking this time around but yeah, love that pencil and making a quick edit in Github web ui
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[tantek] aaronpk, I suggest preemptively blocking *.chatgpt. site from every place you are blocking domains. From hashtag searches, indielogin, webmentionio etc
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aaronpk the only times i would recommend cloning the whole thing to make edits is if you have a bunch of edits across a bunch of files to do
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[Morgan_M] Makes a lot of sense
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[Morgan_M] I just imagined a person using the pencil to make a fork/PR all together quickly their first time almost deserves a gold star like "Hey your a dev now!" =D. Anyways, the chat option is good, even if there is occasional need for redacting, smoothing that out as is accomplished by the wiki entry seems great to me
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