#microformats 2013-03-07

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tantek
edited /breadcrumbs-brainstorming (+757) "/* h-breadcrumb */ add subsections, FAQ for the question JonathanNeal asked, live example"
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tantek
created /h-breadcrumbs (+26) "r"
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@BrunoDemetriosD
@Luiz_HCard nem vo te fala nada né auhsua
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@BrunoDemetriosD
@Luiz_HCard não cai na pira irmao ausha
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tantek
edited /breadcrumbs-brainstorming (+532) "JSON output for simple example"
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magregg51
created /What_Is_The_Real_True_Religion (+2885) "The depths of hell, he would charge, would open up and swallow them, but such has not happened -- nor will it. Quality: With the latest cutting-edge technologies, replica Louis Vuitton purses are better made than ever before."
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tantek
edited /breadcrumbs-brainstorming (+1232) "JSON outputs updated/fixed/added"
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tantek
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tantek
deleted /What_Is_The_Real_True_Religion "content was spam"
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tantek
ok I'd say we're pretty darn close having a good to go h-breadcrumbs microformat
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tantek
now to try it on some real world pages
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tantek
first, to implement some pages that would make sense with it
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tantek
like personal site archives, date hierarchy and all that
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itst
edited /existing-rel-values (+178) "Added "publisher" to POSH"
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icex47
created /Linux_Web_Hosting:_The_Positives_And_Negatives (+3068) "Which is why, Traffic Mavericks would work for serious companies, internet marketers, affiliates perhaps eBook entrepreneurs. Hence, this is one of many issues that you're going to desire to look for before you get involved with a company."
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scbbbwecsdb
created /User:scbbbwecsdb (+3534) "Be A single With Mother nature Using These Camping outdoors"
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scbbbwecsdb
edited /User:scbbbwecsdb (+3476) "/* Specialist Tips For Offering Personalized Or Business Proper */ new section"
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scbbbwecsdb
edited /User:scbbbwecsdb (+3311) "/* Seeking Trend Suggestions */ new section"
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scbbbwecsdb
edited /User:scbbbwecsdb (+3486) "/* Learning To Prepare food The Enjoyment And Simple Way */ new section"
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JonathanNeal
Is this spam?
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JonathanNeal
What Loqi is reporting?
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Loqi
who, me?
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scbbbwecsdb
edited /User:scbbbwecsdb (+3527) "/* Tips That Will Make You Peer Similar To A Superstar */ new section"
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scbbbwecsdb
edited /User:scbbbwecsdb (+3500) "/* Angling Made Simple By Using These Verified Techniques */ new section"
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scbbbwecsdb
edited /User:scbbbwecsdb (+3762) "/* Good Hair Care Suggestions That Anyone Can Consider */ new section"
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scbbbwecsdb
edited /User:scbbbwecsdb (+3562) "/* Tips On Tips On How To Decrease The Ache And Puffiness Linke */ new section"
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scbbbwecsdb
edited /User:scbbbwecsdb (+3477) "/* The Advantages And Rewards Of Getting An IPhone */ new section"
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scbbbwecsdb
edited /User:scbbbwecsdb (+3497) "/* Sincere Tips On Whitening Your Tooth Right now */ new section"
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tommorris
tantek: morning. You now have an entry in Wikidata. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3515304
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tommorris
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tommorris
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tommorris
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tantek
tommorris - fascinating
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tommorris
they exist to reduce duplication of data across the different sites
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iSRAELi
hi
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iSRAELi
can i do
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iSRAELi
<span class="fn org"> <img alt="THE TEXT">
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iSRAELi
?
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iSRAELi
or i must have clear text?
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tantek
iSRAELi - if you want the fn and org to use the alt text, you can put the class names directly on the <img>
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gjones
tantek sorry I did not pick your message the other day, had a look at changes to parse rules
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tantek
gjones - no problem
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gjones
think parse rules need to say if a h-* inside another h-* should also be added to top level JSON items collection in its own right or only as a child/property of parent
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gjones
think this is the point barnaby was making
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victorina
created /User:Victorina (+191) "New page: I am 36 years old and my name is Victorina Alcorn. I life in M�che (Switzerland).<br><br><br>my site"
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Loqi
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tommorris
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tommorris
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created /View_the_rule_clearly_before_making_bad_credit_short_term_loans (+2940) "When urgent circumstance like unexpected moment are usually happened and ought to be satisfied soon. Whilst you nonetheless hesitate to learn the resource of loaner for mortgage loan cash. Sometimes,bank loan income along with other folks in addition"
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@ChrissParedess
I love that I broke my card. My mom just gives me money everyday like its nothing. If I had my hcard she would say " you have your card "
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leandrawcbiysuuyicalin
created /If_You_Buy_Cialis_Online,_You_Obtain_The_Best_ED_Medication4521773 (+2332) "New page: The sexual health of a man’s life concerns sexual gratification and mental health. A man can entirely be affected once erectile dysfunction takes place. These days, the condition is no l..."
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@alexis_drabkin
RT @ChrissParedess: I love that I broke my card. My mom just gives me money everyday like its nothing. If I had my hcard she would say " ...
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tantek
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iSRAELi
hi
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margarita
created /User:Margarita (+211) "New page: Nothing to tell about myself I think.<br>Feels good to be a member of this site.<br>I really hope I am useful in some way .<br><br>Feel free to visit my weblog - [http://www.photocopiersal..."
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tantek
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tantek
deleted /User:Margarita "content was spam"
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frisor
created /User:Frisor (+5057) "New page: 5 tips til hvordan du kan fÃ¥ ham Email Skal date nummer et blive til to, tre, fire eller flere? Følg disse fem regler for at forbedre dine chancer. Første dates er næsten ligesom ..."
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tantek
edited /Special:Log/block () "blocked [[User:Frisor]] with an expiry time of infinite (account creation disabled): Spamming links to external sites"
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tantek
deleted /User:Frisor "content was spam"
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JonathanNeal
what's new?
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tantek
JonathanNeal - check out my h-breadcrumb write-up: http://microformats.org/wiki/h-breadcrumb
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tantek
with JSON output, and FAQ (as you asked) and everything :)
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JonathanNeal
i hope i bookmarked that parser.
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JonathanNeal
Interesting how you require nesting for the most common uses of breadcrumbs.
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JonathanNeal
Which is to show the nested relation between the current page and the root.
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tantek
how did you get that misimpression?
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tantek
this is the most common use - and doesn't require nesting: http://microformats.org/wiki/h-breadcrumb#example
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tantek
right there at the top of the page
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JonathanNeal
Oh, I misunderstood "If a page has multiple breadcrumb paths to the current document, then more explicit markup must be used."
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tantek
reword?
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JonathanNeal
multiple breadcrumb is useful when surfing by tag, I take it.
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JonathanNeal
or when navigating down a tag tree versus a … whatever the normal kind of tree is called.
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@guyrosendahl
trying to get Google+ to verify my authorship is maddening. How do I fix hCard problems? #google+ #coding
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jonathantneal
edited /parsers (-1) "/* Microformat Node */ broken link"
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JonathanNeal
I made a bookmarklet out of microformat-node.
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JonathanNeal
tantek: I like it. I'll adopt it. I already wrote to our engineering department about adopting microformats for all the things.
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JonathanNeal
Which would then trickle down into all of our customers.
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tantek
glad to hear it!
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JonathanNeal
With our breadcrumbs, we don't know if it will be tag based or tree based.
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JonathanNeal
So, we might need to always use the later format.
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JonathanNeal
Is there a stubbed h-sitenavigation or whatever the word you would use is?
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JonathanNeal
I like the FAQ, at the bottom, by the way.
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tantek
not sure what a sitenavigation microformat would do
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tantek
the breadcrumbs are useful for previews/context
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barnabywalters
I assume someone has already mentioned this, but surely rel=up or rel=parent would be ideal for (at least the first level of) breadcrumbs?
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tantek
barnabywalters - sure if all you have is one level then rel=up is fine
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tantek
but nearly no one uses those in the wild
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tantek
and rel=parent is now part of XFN - meaning actual parent, not computer science abstraction "parent"
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tantek
but in practice breadcrumbS (emphasis on the plural) are more than one and thus a breadcrumbS format needs something more
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tantek
a single *breadcrumb* could use just a rel
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tantek
but a single breadcrumb is also not really distinguishable from any other link
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tantek
it's only when you have a series of breadcrumbs are they recognizable as such
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JonathanNeal
tantek: i don't know how to ask the positive form of this question: how would sitenavigation be not useful as a parsable thing?
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JonathanNeal
there are great similaraties between a menu and a breadcrumb trail.
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tantek
well if you can't name a specific use, then it's not useful
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JonathanNeal
in fact, a breadcrumb should imply the ability to navigate bi-directionally. a breadcrumb is merely a useful slice of the navigation pie.
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tantek
hence the need to document use-cases
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tantek
except for breadcrumbs we have the specific use-case of displaying context for a page in a page summary
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tantek
navigation has no similar use-case
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JonathanNeal
it's a site summary, yes, not a document summary.
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JonathanNeal
it's a corpus summary :)
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hroscoe25
created /Is_It_Definitely_Worthwhile_to_Go_through_A_Tervis_Evaluation? (+3026) "Plenty of individuals are very inclined to sipping coffee soon after getting out of bed, having a cup of tea right after a meal, as well as drinking a cup of milk before sleeping. With all of these, many companies have decided to create tumblers for"
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tommorris
moar spam. yay.
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JonathanNeal
That looks important.
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JonathanNeal
How do they get bpast your captcha?
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tommorris
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tommorris
by hand
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JonathanNeal
Does that include account creation?
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tommorris
Not sure
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JonathanNeal
Why go through all of that effort, continually? It makes one wonder if they're in some country that is suffering some famine and getting paid to do this.
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tommorris
there's a reason I need to nudge Wikimedia into distributing a safe-from-spam default shipping of MediaWiki.
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