#microformats 2013-05-03
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Garbee Ok, I need to get closing the store now.
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@davidmead RT @t: One month ago: spoke on #microformats2 &
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Loqi #HTML5 @HTML5DevConf. 33 minute video http://www.youtube.com/ #microformats #API (ttk.me…
# Garbee I'll finish up the Code & tools page on the wiki tomorrow so we can get things shifted over.
# Garbee Np, I need to be useful somewhere. ;)
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@dosberg Seriously? #microformats2 http://microformats.org/
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@henriquemccosta @Luiz_HCard vai ter extintor mesmo?
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@Bea_Rocha @Luiz_HCard poisée, tem que ter mesmo pra conseguir essa proeza kkkkkkkk
# @Bea_Rocha não não, como que uma pessoa consegue machucar o musculo da barriga, né @Luiz_HCard ??? kkkkkkk
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@wavis I'm dipping a toe into microformats with hreview http://www.wavis.org/1/post/2013/05/hreview-test.html
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@diligiant RT @t: One month ago: spoke on #microformats2 &
# Loqi #HTML5 @HTML5DevConf. 33 minute video http://www.youtube.com/ #microformats #API (ttk.me…
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# Loqi HTML5 – The Evolution of #Web #Data" by @t: http://tantek.com/presentations/2013/04/microformats2/
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# Garbee tantek, Any way I could get permission to delete pages on the Wiki? That way I can help take care of some of the spam as I see it.
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@lunchduty I liked a @YouTube video from @marakana http://www.youtube.com/ microformats2 &
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tantek Garbee - do you think /wiki/code-tools is good enough to be a redirect replacement for /code-tools ?
# Garbee tantek, Once I copy the other links on the page down. As of right now it is all there yes.
# Garbee The other links will be good for a part of the wiki showing off sites actually using it. You said there were various -in-the-wild sections around, those could become a single page segmented by the format in use to make a great one-page listing of cool stuff using MicroFormats.
# Garbee just saved a copy of the whole current source. So it is good to be redirected.
# Garbee Ah.
# Garbee Well, is there any page that simply lists out the *-examples-in-wild pages?
# Garbee http://microformats.org/wiki/examples-in-wild --Yup!
# Garbee So I just need to check those pages for the ones listed under the Code & Tools source I have, if they aren't in then I'll add them.
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# Garbee Also I think we should do something on Web Platform Docs about Microformatting.
# Garbee Still mulling around how that should be handled.
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@Joohh_Criciuma @Luiz_HCard de boas.
# @Joohh_Criciuma @Luiz_HCard A @pq_nao falou que a L&V toca entre 15h e 16h no concentra ;D
# @Joohh_Criciuma @Luiz_HCard Amanhã tem no concentra hehe
# @henriquemccosta @Luiz_HCard o tema podia ser "construa uma narrativa de um jovem que vira bandido" kkk
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# Garbee I almost think that doing Microformat stuff in WPD could go beyond just MF. To in fact go towards talking completely about structured data in the front-end web space.
# Garbee Ah ok, thanks!
# Garbee Well, it needs to be able to become comprehensive.
# Garbee At first though, *I* would only really focusing on documenting MF.
# Garbee But, I'd start with a new section where the top page tries to explain there are many ways of doing it.
# Garbee It may, let me see if a search comes up with anything...
# Garbee WPD was formed with loads of imported content from many places, still a mess...
# Garbee The point of WPD though is to be a comprehensive resource.
# Garbee We can't just exclude things because we see them as more work for no/little gain.
# Garbee What we can do though is try to urge people towards a certain thing, which would be the simplest method to achieve the desired result (in this case MF would win imo.)
# Garbee Historical stuff can be included if people really want to doc it. But unless someone feels like doing that level of detail, who cares (really, if no one wants to doc it, who cares.)
# Garbee I mean, if someone *wanted* they can doc HTML1 for all we care.
# Garbee I'm just going to try and build a new section of content, Structured Data.
# Garbee From there *I* will try to help document MF.
# Garbee If others want to come in and document Schema.org/MicroData, that is up to them and it will be open for them to do so.
# Garbee We just need to have a bit of tact to make sure it isn't being shown that MF is the *only* way of doing it, since there are clearly alternatives that are in use.
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# Garbee I'll mull around in my head for a while on the structure of that new section. Then begin a discussion in WPD on it to get input from others there.
# Garbee Examples would be in a "What is Structured Data?" article. ;)
# Garbee Show a few formats up front that are widely used today.
# Garbee Then since at first I personally am only looking into MF, we would have docs for it available.
# Garbee Yea, Facebook's OGP would be something we would need to discuss with the WPD community.
# Garbee Twitter Card's I'm pretty sure we wouldn't do.
# Garbee But, once again something to discuss with the WPD community on what is acceptable.
# tantek I made a few minor heading related tweaks to the /wiki/code-tools page - take a look
# Garbee tbh, I'm willing to just "see where it goes."
# Garbee Yup.
# Garbee Honestly though, I personally think that *purely* proprietary things should be documented by their maintainer, so out of WPD's scope.
# Garbee code-tools looks good to me!
# Garbee Also on the note of WPD, I by no means "decide" what we do. I do think though that anyone should be able to document anything dealing within the scope of WPD as long as it conforms to our architecture of docs. There are things like SQL and PHP that we don't document. Yes they are heavily used and one is even *a* standard, but it isn't a W3C standard nor is it being worked towards that goal. So it is irrelevant to our docs in most cases.
# Garbee People can do whatever docs they want as far as I am concerned, even outdated stuff (which we would make well known it is out of date somehow.)
# Garbee ^^as long as it is within scope.
# Garbee I'll work on the "Get Started" page in a day or two and convert that into a wiki page.
# Garbee So perhaps we should find one of those to link over to then.
# Garbee ah, http://microformats.org/wiki/get-started
# Garbee I'll evaluate that tomorrow. By that I really mean add a few code examples so people start to get a feel for the markup.
# Garbee btw, when doing that, should I do things to MF1 or MF2 format?