#microformats 2014-03-04

2014-03-04 UTC
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JonathanNeal
I’m excited! Might seem like overkill, but I think it’s future proof. At my new job we’re designing a site that controls messages on the digital displays throughout the campus, and I’m using microformats 2 to define all of the layouts.
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tantek
whoa that's awesome JonathanNeal!
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JonathanNeal
I don’t see microformats being used with this - http://microformats.org/wiki/s5-tools - what am I missing?
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JonathanNeal
Maybe I don’t understand xoxo when I’m used to h- constructs.
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kaefer3000
edited /existing-rel-values (+18) "Changed link for RDF in HTML to the correct version of the document"
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JonathanNeal
Is h-entry good for slides?
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barnabywalters
JonathanNeal: depends how you want to use it
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barnabywalters
when thinking “should I use this vocabulary for this thing”, think about what services consume the vocal, and how you want your content to show up in them
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barnabywalters
e.g. lots of indieweb software uses h-entry for reply contexts and comments, or in a feed reader
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barnabywalters
so think “if someone replies to this presentation, or sees it in their feed, what should it look like?”
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barnabywalters
and go from there
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JonathanNeal
barnabywalters: wonderful, so in a situation like that, with entries in a feed or slides in a presentation, how would one markup the navigation between them?
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JonathanNeal
Is there something like h-navigation, h-directory, h-menu? None of those actually exist, though there is a brainstorm for h-breadcrumb.
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barnabywalters
well, entries in a feed and slides in a presentation are very different UIs
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barnabywalters
for navigation between sequential content use rel=next and rel=prev[ious]
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barnabywalters
there’s also rel=parent
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barnabywalters
for “up”, e.g. to get to “notes” from a particular note
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JonathanNeal
barnabywalters: prev/next would be useful if I were referring to siblings in relationship to an entry. This is agnostic, like a website navigation. The only rel might be a self.
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JonathanNeal
It’s global navigation for all the slides, not back/next.
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barnabywalters
ah, okay — again, consider how the extra semantics are going to be interpreted and presented by consuming software, and let that inform your decisions
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barnabywalters
so what are you going to build which makes programatic use of this machine-readable global navigation?
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barnabywalters
probably the reason that h-breadcrumb hasn’t really gone anywhere is that no-one knew what to *do* with it once it was there
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barnabywalters
there’s no compelling, high-value use case
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barnabywalters
(so far at least)
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JonathanNeal
Okay, more thinking and building are needed. I appreciate the input.
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