#microformats 2014-06-06

2014-06-06 UTC
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clickmonster edited /hcard-examples-in-wild (+108) (view diff)
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barnabywalters bdesham: so I just ran <div class="h-card">
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barnabywalters <abbr class="p-name" title="Full Name">Me</abbr></div> through http://waterpigs.co.uk/php-mf2/ and it correctly parses “Full name”
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barnabywalters did you by any chance copy/paste the code I typed in to #indiewebcamp? I think my IRC client added curly quotes
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barnabywalters which will not work correctly in HTML
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bdesham hmm, I'm pretty sure I did the same thing and got something different. let me check
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bdesham no, I didn't copy the curly quotes
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barnabywalters KartikPrabhu: what’s the link to your mf2py testing UI? can you add it to http://microformats.org/wiki/mf2py please?
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bdesham oh, nope, everything works. I must have been working with an old version of the html
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bdesham thanks barnabywalters!
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barnabywalters bdesham: excellent! not a problem :)
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bdesham and that tool was https://kartikprabhu.com/connection/mfparser, if that's what you meant
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barnabywalters thanks, I’ll add the link now
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barnabywalters edited /mf2py (+99) "added link to testing UI" (view diff)
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kylewm can't seem to load the log. was there a resolution on the abbr title issue?
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barnabywalters kylewm: yep, sorted it :)
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barnabywalters Loqi logs for #microformats would be awesome
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aaronpk it's about time :)
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kylewm phew :) thanks
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barnabywalters I know you’re listening, Loqi!
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Loqi :)
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bdesham Can I expect microformats parsers to "do the right thing" for base URLs? If I specify that my h-card photo is "/images/photo.jpg", should a parser be able to resolve that path (i.e. prepend the correct host)?
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aaronpk yes
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tantek bdesham - yes, per the microformats2-parsing spec
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tantek and I think there are even test cases for that too
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bdesham great
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barnabywalters bdesham: yep, relative URLs will be resolved correctly, but only in circumstances where it makes sense to parse them as URLs — e.g. <span class=“u-url”>/images/photo.jpg</span> won’t resolve it
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barnabywalters they will correctly be resolved anywhere a URL is expected e.g. src=, href= data= attributes
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bdesham I'm using the tool at http://indiewebify.waterpigs.co.uk/validate-h-card and it doesn't resolve my test page, which is on a server that uses port 8080 instead of 80
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bdesham not sure if that's actually a bug, though
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bdesham example: http://indiewebify.waterpigs.co.uk/validate-h-card/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdev.bdesham.info%3A8080%2Fabout.html
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bdesham barnabywalters: yeah, that makes sense, thanks
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barnabywalters bdesham: I see it working fine both on indiewebify.waterpigs (which is my test server) and production http://indiewebify.me/validate-h-card/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdev.bdesham.info%3A8080%2Fabout.html
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barnabywalters “Success!
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barnabywalters We found the following h-card on your site:”
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barnabywalters what specifically is the issue?
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bdesham the image isn't found
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bdesham it was originally specified with a relative URL, but that tool resolves the URL against the hostname *without* using the correct port number
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bdesham (sorry, I realize I didn't actually say what was wrong before...)
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barnabywalters ah, okay — looking now
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barnabywalters “hello-ladies.jpg”? lol
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bdesham hehehe
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barnabywalters ah yep okay I see. it isn’t correctly resolving to the full host — aaronpk looks like that’s an issue with the relative URL resolution?
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aaronpk uhoh
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aaronpk ignores the port number?
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aaronpk i coulda sworn I had a test case for that
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barnabywalters aaronpk: I thought there was too, but unless there’s a separate problem, failing real world case > test case
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aaronpk just need to know what to fix
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barnabywalters aaronpk: see the photo property of http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdev.bdesham.info%3A8080%2Fabout.html
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barnabywalters it has no port number, whereas the page URL does have a port number
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aaronpk gah no tests include port number, even though lots of tests include weird things like username/password
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aaronpk ok then
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barnabywalters aaronpk: I’ll raise an issue for posterity
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barnabywalters https://github.com/indieweb/php-mf2/issues/47
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aaronpk interestingly, the rfc doesn't include a test with port numbers http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#section-5.4
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barnabywalters if only it was a wiki
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bdesham wikis for RFCs? that way madness lies ;)
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aaronpk fixed! with test
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barnabywalters aaronpk: wow that was quick
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aaronpk sorry for the merge commit
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barnabywalters np
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aaronpk yes, after reading the rfc again I realized I had just left out including the port number in the "authority" segment
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aaronpk https://github.com/indieweb/php-mf2/commit/b1814f6a760d40c8cbba070329cc403ca95e3149
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aaronpk luckily I wrote that code to match the RFC algorithm and cited RFC paragraphs and everything
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bdesham thanks for the fix aaronpk!
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aaronpk np!
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@usmkurniawan Cara atasi masalah Warning: Missing required field "updated", hCard "author", field “entry-title” di BLOGSPOT:... http://bloggingpasuruan.blogspot.com/2014/06/cara-atasi-masalah-warning-missing.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed (twitter.com/_/status/474954344077348865)
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bdesham me again ;) how do I use the "href" attribute of a <link> as a microformat property value? setting class="u-url" doesn't seem to work
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bdesham how do I use the "href" attribute of a <link> as a microformat property value? setting class="u-url" doesn't seem to work
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KartikPrabhu bdesham: any reason you'd like to use <link> which is a hidden element vs <a> which is visible to readers?
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tantek bdesham - really? what's your example?
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KartikPrabhu tantek: the mf2 parsing for u-* does not specify looking at <link> http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing#parsing_a_u-_property
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tantek KartikPrabhu: probably because it is invisible
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KartikPrabhu yes
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tantek though we do support it for the rels - because that limits it, and there's been some solid use-cases presented for <link rel>
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KartikPrabhu tantek: any page where these use cases are written up?
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tantek KartikPrabhu: usually on *-examples pages on the microformats wiki
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KartikPrabhu ok will look
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tantek on the #indiewebcamp wiki, it's usually in a section
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tantek on a page on the subject
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tantek sometimes they're resolved by raising issues, e.g. on the *-issues page
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tantek e.g. /wiki/microformats2-parsing-issues
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KartikPrabhu aah cool...
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bdesham I want to include a link to my "about me" page from my "about me" page. it would be silly to have an actual <a> link, and there's already a <link rel="canonical"> in the header
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KartikPrabhu bdesham: but what is the purpose of marking it up? As in what microformat do you want to use?
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