#microformats 2015-03-19
2015-03-19 UTC
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Tigt Pardon me, I was wondering if I could ask for some advice on using microformats2
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# Tigt awesome, thank you
# Tigt I'm scaffolding up a webcomic site where I'm trying some high-concept stuff
# Tigt mostly, comics-as-markup instead of bitmaps
# Tigt (bunch of SVG)
# Tigt and I was curious if microformats can go onto SVG
# Tigt I figure they do, since it supports the class attribute
# Tigt it would be inline markup, and the only difficulty I can foresee is it being in a technically different elementNS() and all which might cause parser issues
# Tigt I'll try that later, I'm very beginning-stages for now
# Tigt and secondly, I'm guessing that h-entry would be most suitable
# Tigt but I just wanted to run that guess by here
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# Tigt oh man, I have that bookmarked apparently
# Tigt that's a pleasant surprise
# Tigt ah yeah I remember the use of <object>
# Tigt I tried that for some early comic-accessibility experiments
# Tigt it seems to work poorly sometimes
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JonathanNeal SVGs, Comics? Hello!
# Tigt especially not re:accessibility trees
# Tigt hello Mr. Neal, I didn't know you were into SVG comics
# Tigt I guess that's true!
# JonathanNeal Tigt: I happen to be working on a website that’s adding a comic, not in SVG, but it’s a really neat idea to convert it into SVG.
# JonathanNeal Since it’s black and white and shouldn’t be too difficult.
# Tigt that would be pretty neat
# JonathanNeal It’s just a vector format, very suitable for the medium.
# JonathanNeal And technically, you could group all the pages, hash them, and have the SVG be a readable comic.
# Tigt I ran a Robbie and Bobby comic through a converter and then tuned it by hand, it ended up being a third the filesize
# JonathanNeal Almost like a self-contained website.
# JonathanNeal So, is there a microformats side to this?
# Tigt (once I gzipped it level 9, anyway)
# Tigt yeah I was just curious if h-entry was suitable and if SVG was an allowed markup language for microformats
# Tigt since it uses class it slots in pretty perfectly
# Tigt having trouble with inserted <meta> tags, but dark data shouldn't be kosher anyway
# Tigt (the HTML5 parser thinks you forgot your </svg> and autocloses it)
# JonathanNeal And it’s only good for bad reasons.
# Tigt it does switch back to HTML inside <title>, <desc>, and <foreignObject>, so it's possible in emergencies
# Tigt but man I don't want to abuse those tags for that
# Tigt alright, thanks for lending me your ear, I'll send my page through the parsers once it's done and report any issues if they happen
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# tango_ it might even be possible to tag the characters inside the comic with microformats
# tango_ and the text bubbles with p-content
# tango_ and have some automatic comic-to-text
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ben_thatmustbeme tango_ there was work on person tagging in photos. That's basically what it is.
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# tango_ ben_thatmustbeme: yah, with the addition of the text bubbles
# tango_ this site http://www.ohnorobot.com/ would love such a feature
# tango_ it could even link to the specific _panel_
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# tango_ so, since my question of lore seems to have gotten lost, I'll reframe it more accurately. we have a website which is handled by jekyll, and I intend to use jekyll-scholar to produce the bibliography page. I wanted it to be properly marked up as bibliography, but all the CSL styles that I see only do standard HTML markup. does anybody know of a CSL style that actually produces microformat-friendly html
# tango_ instead?
# tango_ (or should I try my hand at CSL and see if I can hack it up myself?)
# tango_ (and if so which microformat style should I use? it seems that for these things there is no widespread consensus as for other, at least judging from the wiki)
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tommorris tango_: http://microformats.org/wiki/h-cite :)
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@AllTheTwits wonders if there's any social site that currently uses hCard for its contacts lists (twitter.com/_/status/578521066307457024)
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# tango_ tommorris: ah, it's not linked from where it should be 8-/ thanks
# tango_ tommorris: good point
# tango_ I think I even have an account on the wiki from a few eons ago
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@glasser @glasser ... and a JS implementation of a standard nobody cares about (maybe my first JS ever?) https://github.com/glasser/js-hcalendar (twitter.com/_/status/578614791478067200)
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@TecnoJuega Corregir Missing required field / hCard en Herramienta de pruebas de datos estructurados http://tecnojuega.com/corregir-missing-required-field-hcard-en-herramienta-de-pruebas-de-datos-estructurados/ (twitter.com/_/status/578616972780376064)
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tantek interesting: anyone want to update https://github.com/glasser/js-hcalendar/ to microformats2?
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willnorris the mf2 parsing page mentions selectors like "abbr.p-x[title]". If I'm not mistaken, that would also match a title attribute with an empty value, correct? Most of the libraries I've looked at (node, php, py) all check for non-empty attribute values. thoughts on the discrepency?
# willnorris thanks, that's what I was thinking as well. If there's an empty attribute, it must have been intentional
# tantek willnorris: could you add that Q & A to http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing-faq#add_another_question_topic_here
# willnorris edited /microformats2-parsing-faq (+288) "add question about empty attribute values" (view diff)
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