#microformats 2015-05-31

2015-05-31 UTC
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elf-pavlik hi tantek o/ why this page has some lock preventing editing? http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing-rdf
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Loqi elf-pavlik: tantek left you a message on 5/30 at 2:30pm: "mf" appears to be an organically emerged convention abbreviation for microformats anyway so sure, using mf: prefix for vocabulary terms defined by microformats.org seems reasonable for folks that need such prefixes. We try to avoid prefixes because they're fragile.
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@okesaxojofol39 Klant tevreden over zowel #KPN als #UPC http://www.allesin1vergelijker.eu/kpn-alles-in-1-pakket-recensie/?wpcrp=1#hreview-16 … "Positief Woord" inderdaad! (twitter.com/_/status/605036613782151168)
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elf-pavlik roger!
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elf-pavlik BTW page mentioned above uses *uf:* and keeps prefixes intended for parser, which i just removed from mf2rdf via PR https://github.com/rhiaro/mf2rdf/pull/3
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tantek elf-pavlik: many pages got locked due to vandalism - if you're interested in microformats2-parsing-rdf in particular - strongly recommend you ping tommorris as he's the one that figured it out and is working on it
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elf-pavlik tommorris++
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Loqi tommorris has 79 karma
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elf-pavlik last edit > 2 years ago - http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing-rdf&action=history
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elf-pavlik i also would like to map microformats.org <-> schema.org, tracking it here https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/559
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tantek elf-pavlik: have you tried creating an account on microformats.org/wiki to edit any pages? it looks like registered accounts should be able to edit that page
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tantek anyway - I have to run - but feel free to ping tommorris too - as he's also an admin and can edit the page protection if necessary.
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elf-pavlik tantek, i logged in but couldn't edit that page... have edited some other ones lately and it worked!
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elf-pavlik i'll wait for tommorris' reply, no rush on that :)
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@scott_gruber Welcome to the microformats wiki! · Microformats Wiki http://microformats.org/wiki/Main_Page (twitter.com/_/status/605049012996186112)
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tommorris elf-pavlik: I can unlock pages if you want to edit.
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elf-pavlik tommorris, yes please :) http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing-rdf
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tommorris ah, actually, it's semi-protected. you should be able to edit as a registered user. only sysops can move the page
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elf-pavlik tommorris, i stay logged in, visit: http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing-rdf&action=edit
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elf-pavlik it says: "You do not have permission to edit pages, for the following reason:
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elf-pavlik This page has been locked to prevent editing."
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tommorris Ah okay, will change
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@yoshihiko_take 構造化データ（http://microformats.org hAtom）をテンプレートに組み込んでマークアップしたお話。 http://t.co/vXWMzfedt9 (twitter.com/_/status/604109601672306688)
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elf-pavlik tommorris, does NOT including parser intended prefixes in the vocab make sense to you? https://github.com/rhiaro/mf2rdf/pull/3
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tommorris edited /Special:Log/protect () "changed protection level for "[[microformats2-parsing-rdf]]": changed protection so elf can edit [move=sysop]" (view diff)
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tommorris elf-pavlik: in the rdfs:label? sure. as for URLs? not that bothered. ;-)
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elf-pavlik tommorris, p-* u-* dt-* etc. AFAIK don't affect semantics but only give hint to parser where to find value in HTML
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elf-pavlik e.g. when parsed to json they get dropped
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tommorris yep, true and true.
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tommorris also, there might be a compelling case for having a "multi-typed" property at some point. I can't think of one.
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tommorris but my not being able to think of a use case doesn't mean that there won't be one at some point
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elf-pavlik rhiaro, had e-description https://github.com/rhiaro/mf2rdf/pull/3/files#diff-29c964a22b0f49a13e6544ee795dd181L187
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elf-pavlik and p-description https://github.com/rhiaro/mf2rdf/pull/3/files#diff-29c964a22b0f49a13e6544ee795dd181L266
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tommorris yep, p- and e- prefixes seem like a likely candidate
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elf-pavlik also u-category and p-category
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tommorris since e- is basically a subtype of string that's demarcated as containing HTML.
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elf-pavlik since one can tag person or topic from e.g. dbpedia
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elf-pavlik https://github.com/aaronpk/Micropub/blob/master/user-stories/SWAT0.md#1-benwerd-takes-a-photo-of-aaronpk
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tommorris I've +1'd the pull request.
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tommorris https://github.com/rhiaro/mf2rdf/pull/3#issuecomment-107225896
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tommorris pops out for a walk.
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elf-pavlik <li><a class="u-category h-card" href="http://aaronparecki.com/">Aaron Parecki</a></li>
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tommorris elf-pavlik: have you got any ideas of how to combine RDFa and mf2rdf output? like, combining the graph outputs and then turning into JSON-LD
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tommorris I only ask because a while back I wrote some Django middleware that uses content negotiation to return microformats2 JSON when you ask for application/json, and parsed RDF when you ask for, say, application/rdf+xml (or the equivalents for n3, ntriples and turtle)
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tommorris and it might be interesting to combine these
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elf-pavlik i'll work on converting microformats HTML to microformats JSON-LD in this repo https://github.com/elf-pavlik/mf2jsonld
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tommorris shall read any responses offline, as he needs to go out and enjoy the little remaining sunshine in London.
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elf-pavlik enjoy the sunshine tommorris!
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elf-pavlik tantek, looking at http://microformats.org/wiki/h-listing#Properties
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elf-pavlik "p-action: text, optional, one of the following values
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elf-pavlik sell, rent, trade, meet, announce, offer, wanted, event, service"
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elf-pavlik how does microformat vocabulary manages such enumerations?
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elf-pavlik also how one can add more verbs e.g. like, eat, drink, cook, transport, sleep etc.
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elf-pavlik http://aaronparecki.com/metrics
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elf-pavlik some more examples of "action": (verb) https://developer.github.com/v3/activity/events/types/
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elf-pavlik non trivial acitons in: https://developer.github.com/v3/activity/events/types/#issuesevent & https://developer.github.com/v3/activity/events/types/#pullrequestevent
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elf-pavlik bootstraps personal ActivityStream2.0 by PESOS github https://github.com/elf-pavlik?tab=activity
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