#microformats 2017-05-23

2017-05-23 UTC
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@cswordpress @jgmac1106 @pfefferle @dshanske They work on themes that do not specifically support microformats 2. (twitter.com/_/status/867042568932032512)
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@cswordpress @jgmac1106 @pfefferle @dshanske I have one site that doesn't use a theme supporting microformats 2 but webmentions are working. (twitter.com/_/status/867042752508420097)
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[shaners] ben_thatmustbeme I version bumped the site’s gem to 4.0.3 and included it in the site header.
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[shaners] https://microformats-ruby-parser.herokuapp.com
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[shaners] I also added a debug note in the json:
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[shaners] https://github.com/indieweb/microformats-ruby-parser-website/issues/4
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Loqi [veganstraightedge] #4 Add debug info to json
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tantek edited /events/2010-03-14-sxsw-microformats-government (+14) "undo some old spam" (view diff)
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KartikPrabhu why is pin13 implying a name here http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fkartikprabhu.com%2Fnotes%2Fclouds original post https://kartikprabhu.com/notes/clouds
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KartikPrabhu unmung/mf2py does not http://www.unmung.com/mf2?url=https%3A%2F%2Fkartikprabhu.com%2Fnotes%2Fclouds&html=&pretty=on
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KartikPrabhu name for h-entry
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KartikPrabhu my best guess is differing "textContent" somehow
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Zegnat Oh man, that HTML is a little hard on the eyes with those humongous URLs
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aaronpk that's not an implied p-name is it?
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aaronpk i see an explicit p-name class
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KartikPrabhu Zegnat: yeah sorry for that. proxied image urls :(
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: oh hmm looking
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Loqi it'll be okay
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Zegnat It is explicit
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Zegnat And it seems like empty string is correct
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: yeah you are right. somehow ummung/mf2py is not picking it
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KartikPrabhu Zegnat: no empty is incorrect according to last rule here http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing#parsing_a_p-_property
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Loqi [Tantek Çelik] microformats2 parsing specification
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Zegnat But there are alt attributes, and they are set to empty strings?
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Zegnat Or am I looking at the HTML wrong?
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KartikPrabhu Zegnat: oh yeah that rule does not have a restriction on alt=""
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KartikPrabhu intersting
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Zegnat I would agree with unmung/mf2py in taking the explicitly empty alt and using that for IMG
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Zegnat And say the PHP parser is wrong in using the SRC values there
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KartikPrabhu tantek: according to the last rule here http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing#parsing_a_p-_property the p-* parsing should return empty string if the alt on a img is set as alt="". Is this correct/intended?
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Loqi [Tantek Çelik] microformats2 parsing specification
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KartikPrabhu PHP parser and mf2py seem to do differing things
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Zegnat “replacing any nested <img> elements with their alt attribute, if present” — I read that as using the value of alt, even if that value happens to be an empty string. I.e. mf2py behaviour.
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Zegnat Nice find KartikPrabhu!
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KartikPrabhu Zegnat: yes, that is what mf2py is doing, but php one is ignoring the alt="" so just confirming
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aaronpk i think this has been solved https://github.com/indieweb/php-mf2/issues/89
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Loqi [gRegorLove] #89 Bug with img alt="" parsing inside p-*
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KartikPrabhu aah! so pin13 is not updated or something
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aaronpk i've been sticking to releases on pin13, but now that we haven't released a point version in over a year i maybe should switch to deploying master
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KartikPrabhu or maybe release a point version :)
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tantek sounds like y'all figured it out :)
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aaronpk i can't until barnaby adds me
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aaronpk https://github.com/indieweb/php-mf2#signed-code-verification
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Loqi [indieweb] php-mf2: php-mf2 is a pure, generic microformats-2 parser for PHP. It makes HTML as easy to consume as JSON.
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KartikPrabhu aah!
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KartikPrabhu tantek: yes /me should learn to find resolved issues before shouting about bugs :P
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[shaners] aaronpk I’m trying deploy your pin13.net mf2 parser site to Heroku. It mostly Just Works™ but there are some issues. Your repo doesn’t allow me to create issues. So here they are:
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[shaners] I created a PR to add a Procfile
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aaronpk neat
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aaronpk wait you can't create an issue?
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aaronpk that's strange, what does it say?
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[shaners] https://github.com/veganstraightedge/mf2-test/issues
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[shaners] redirects to /pulls
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aaronpk wat
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[shaners] you must’ve turned it off in settings or something
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aaronpk oh, no that's *your* repo that's redirecting
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aaronpk because it's a fork
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[shaners] oh jeez.
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[shaners] my bad. duh.
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[shaners] web browsering is hard. let’s go shopping.
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[shaners] Ok. Made a couple issues. I hope that they’re little / easy things and that you have cycles to do them.
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@johnallsopp @markdalgleish who you calling anachronistic? ;-) https://www.amazon.com/Developing-Web-Standards-John-Allsopp/dp/0321646924 https://www.amazon.com/Microformats-Empowering-Your-Markup-Web/dp/1590598148 (twitter.com/_/status/867162865320382464)