#microformats 2017-05-22

2017-05-22 UTC
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Zegnat I am going to work on getting this onto the mf wiki today, but would love early input. This documents my choices for a pronoun property: http://wiki.zegnat.net/microformats/pronoun
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Zegnat I am having trouble addressing the consumer questions that were raised about my pronoun format. Really can’t think of any argument other then: “there are so many problems consuming the current idea, that my new idea can not have made it worse”. Which I feel is an incredibly bad argument.
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sknebel is "it makes it more obvious that you can't just grab a pronoun out of a property and use it, unless you have dedicated language-specific handling" a good answer?
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sknebel as in, with your proposal a consumer has to compare the offered pronouns with a list it has to figure out in what context to use which one. which means they need to maintain such a language specific database, but also means it'll match how the language works (hopefully)
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Zegnat That’s pretty good phrasing, yes
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Zegnat I would even say the current idea with the specific case classes seems to imply you can just pick them up and drop them into your sentences. Which simply isn’t true for all languages, I think. I blame our English-centrism.
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Zegnat For a second I was tempted to introduce a list of valid IDs, like the SPDX License List, but there is just no way to cover every single pronoun imaginable with that
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sknebel yes, that's what I meant. your proposal doesn't suggest that that might be possible
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Zegnat Thanks. I like the implication argument a lot better than my previous “both implementations are flawed” argument. This standards stuff really does need multiple eyeballs to take form
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Zegnat I can’t wait to start on gender next ;)
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Zegnat sknebel, if you can spare me another minute of your time, how does the section “what about consumers” sound now? http://wiki.zegnat.net/microformats/pronoun
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sknebel Zegnat: even though it is already in the paragraph above I'd maybe emphasize "this only worked in english anyways" a bit more, but other than that I think that's pretty clear.
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sknebel would be nice if somebody else could read the section, then the chatlog here and confirm they understood it as intended though
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Zegnat I don’t know how much I want to repeat myself about the English problem. In reality, that would just be the answer to almost every question
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sknebel fair enough
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Zegnat “We don’t know enough non-indo-european languages to force any classification labels on pronouns, so scrap them!” - by itself is a big argument, I guess
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Zegnat Or even that might be to big a set. Germanic might be as wide as we can cast our net currently.
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Zegnat If I learn some Low Saxon, Yiddish, and Scots, I would be able to cover the 10 biggest Germanic languages by myself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_languages#Statistics
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sknebel I guess next step you should write some demo examples. as in, let's assume a user with this h-card, an application that wants to do X with it, can it do that with the proposal? what would it do with the older one?
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Zegnat I think most use-cases will circle around single line notification messages, like: “Martijn replied to your post on his site.” / “Martijn mentioned you in his post.”
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Zegnat And the big problem is that those only work if the message you want to display matches the language of the pronouns I have listed. Even with the specific classes, this could easily turn into “Martijn replied to our post on hans site.” if I only offered Swedish pronouns.
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sknebel that's why you have to take the language into account and fall back to some generic default if you don't know. if one of the provided languages maps clearly, you can even get fancy and try to translate
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sknebel (do we even get the language out of a mf2-parser for these things? I'm not up-to-date on that
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Zegnat No, language is still only a proposal, though I find voxpelli’s proposal really good
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sknebel ah, right, found the link now
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voxpelli sknebel: Zegnat: I think that additional feedback/support/implementations is all that remains for the proposal to progress, so make your voices heard if you haven't :)
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Zegnat I have mostly been vocal on IRC, but will add my support on the wiki today, voxpelli. As I am also planning on moving my pronoun thoughts over to the mf wiki when it has stabilised.
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voxpelli Zegnat: there's also https://github.com/microformats/microformats2-parsing
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Loqi [microformats] microformats2-parsing: For collecting and handling issues with the microformats2 parsing specification: http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing
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voxpelli With eg. https://github.com/microformats/microformats2-parsing/issues/3
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Loqi [voxpelli] #3 Parse language information
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Zegnat http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing-brainstorming#Parse_language_information
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Loqi microformats2 parsing brainstorming
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Zegnat Oh. That issue links to the right brainstorming session. Alright :)
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Zegnat I have used both @lang and @hreflang, so should definitely add my example posts to the wiki
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Zegnat Oh, interesting aside, below the language proposal Kyle proposes a pronoun object (h-) rather than just property.
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Zegnat .h-pronoun[lang=""] and fill that with whatever .p-case properties the specific language needs. That would adress consumers, but feels like a tonne of extra work on the writer
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Zegnat voxpelli, if IWC Malmö ever happens, we need to make this internationalisation session a compulsory thing ;)
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voxpelli Indeed :) Surprised the German ones has managed to dodge it
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sknebel we had one in Berlin
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sknebel it wasn't very productive
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sknebel cause nobody there actually did anything with it on their personal sites, and those that did stuff with it in their day jobs of course approached it differently
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Zegnat Notes are minimal: https://indieweb.org/2016/Berlin/i18n
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sknebel yep
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sknebel it was minimal
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Zegnat There is a huge disconnect between content creators and technology in i18n, I think.
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sknebel I think the most relevant thing we talked about was the old topic of "how to deal with multi-language streams"
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sknebel (I noticed this with Sebsels page. checkins were useful, blog posts I don't understand)
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voxpelli sknebel: I have multi-language streams on my site :)
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Zegnat sknebel: https://seblog.nl/english ;)
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sknebel Zegnat: which misses most checkins
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Zegnat Oh, I guess checkins are Dutch posts. So that’s not a language issue, that’s a whole different issue. I.e: what content should be duplicated in multiple languages
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Zegnat Interesting
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sknebel it's what I meant with multi-language streams, there are a bunch of potential patterns for when to include what
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sknebel and offer readers options
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sknebel but i guess at least the second bit is more general stream-UI
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Zegnat You could subscribe to /checkins and /english and de-dupe doubles for the stream you want in sebsel’s case. I am not sure if the content producer should create every possible stream combination.
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Zegnat Buuut, this is departing from #microformats now :)
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sknebel yep
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sknebel and yes, I miss yahoo pipes
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Loqi misses yahoo pipes too
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sknebel (Loqi technically could have been part yahoo pipes for at least some functions)
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@rubygems microformats (4.0.3): A Ruby gem to parse HTML containing one or more microformats and microformats2 and return a… https://rubygems.org/gems/microformats (twitter.com/_/status/866655835916840961)
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ben_thatmustbeme blank rel-urls filtered out correctly now
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@kevinmarks @csarven @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf No microformats, but I see some rels http://www.unmung.com/mf2?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FTR%2Fldn%2Flinked-data-notifications-overview.svg&html=&pretty=on (twitter.com/_/status/866659363586441217)
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@kevinmarks @csarven @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf Hm, the description of microformats in that document is out of… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866662278216765440 (twitter.com/_/status/866662278216765440)
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[kevinmarks] https://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/RDFa_1.1._Errata#Errata_for:_RDFa_Core_1.1_-_Third_Edition.2C_published:_2015-03-17
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@kevinmarks @csarven @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf there we go, erratum filed: https://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/RDFa_1.1._Errata#Mischaracterises_Microformats_by_referring_to_many_years_old_spec cc @t @microformats (twitter.com/_/status/866670981234008064)
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@csarven @kevinmarks @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf @t @microformats The way I interpret the paragraph in the RE… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866673754612649985 (twitter.com/_/status/866673754612649985)
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@dissolve333 @csarven @kevinmarks @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf @t @microformats microformats2 parsing only looks f… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866676890635055107 (twitter.com/_/status/866676890635055107)
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@dissolve333 @csarven @kevinmarks @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf @t @microformats While it then goes on to list well… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866677183913353218 (twitter.com/_/status/866677183913353218)
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@kevinmarks @csarven @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf @t @microformats When that paragraph was 1st written in 2008 it… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866678738616016896 (twitter.com/_/status/866678738616016896)
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@csarven @dissolve333 @kevinmarks @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf @t @microformats That's parsing. There's (un)in… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866680182777761794 (twitter.com/_/status/866680182777761794)
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@dissolve333 @csarven @kevinmarks @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf @t @microformats They have to be already using micr… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866681277365321728 (twitter.com/_/status/866681277365321728)
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@dissolve333 @csarven @kevinmarks @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf @t @microformats Its also expected that there are t… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866681641896431616 (twitter.com/_/status/866681641896431616)
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@csarven @dissolve333 @kevinmarks @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf @t @microformats Same problem space as my origi… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866681710901067776 (twitter.com/_/status/866681710901067776)
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@dissolve333 @csarven @kevinmarks @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf @t @microformats Thats by definition of 'it can be… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866683208414502912 (twitter.com/_/status/866683208414502912)
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@csarven @dissolve333 @kevinmarks @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf @t @microformats What I'm inquiring is that the… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866684125587148801 (twitter.com/_/status/866684125587148801)
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tantek !tell KartikPrabhu thanks for the heads-up. cleared up.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@kevinmarks @csarven @dissolve333 @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf @t @microformats you're repeating the misunderstan… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866685442627907584 (twitter.com/_/status/866685442627907584)
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@csarven @dissolve333 @kevinmarks @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf @t @microformats Not sure if mf2's parsing in c… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866685800217530369 (twitter.com/_/status/866685800217530369)
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@kevinmarks @csarven @dissolve333 @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf @t @microformats All vocab use is a social underst… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866690285056741377 (twitter.com/_/status/866690285056741377)
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@dissolve333 @kevinmarks @csarven @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf @t @microformats I think an ocean having a fax number is funnier. (twitter.com/_/status/866691561576423424)
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@csarven @kevinmarks @dissolve333 @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf @t @microformats Difficult to have a conversati… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866692406288293888 (twitter.com/_/status/866692406288293888)
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@csarven @kevinmarks @dissolve333 @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf @t @microformats Obviously it's social. Histori… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866693537303339008 (twitter.com/_/status/866693537303339008)
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@csarven @kevinmarks @dissolve333 @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf @t @microformats @LeaVerou AFAICT an RDFa parse… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866698578424717313 (twitter.com/_/status/866698578424717313)
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@csarven @kevinmarks @dissolve333 @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf @t @microformats You demo a quality issue part… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866704661348220928 (twitter.com/_/status/866704661348220928)
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gRegorLove Zegnat: experimental language parsing is coming to php-mf2 parser btw: https://github.com/indieweb/php-mf2/pull/97
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Loqi [gRegorLove] #97 Experimental language parsing
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ben_thatmustbeme ohh
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ben_thatmustbeme didn't know that got merged
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Zegnat That's cool gRegorLove! I'll have to run my site through it and see what happens
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ben_thatmustbeme wonders if people would like that in the ruby parser
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gRegorLove Doesn't cover hreflang though
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gRegorLove Bur probably not too difficult to add
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Zegnat I am not sure if hreflang is important. Only necessary if the parser needs to read the linked resource, in which case we can assume the resource itself provides its language when fetched?
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gRegorLove That sounds right, yeah
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@csarven @kevinmarks @dissolve333 @t @microformats The point is that mf2 permits volcanoes to have a fax number. (twitter.com/_/status/866716898620317697)
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gRegorLove tantek++ for keeping up with all the spam hassle
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tantek alrighty, tightened up the spam filter a bit more
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tantek to reduce realtime response needs
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tantek much cheaper for me to block specific 888 or 800 numbers than it is for the spammers to buy new 888 or 800 numbers. bring it.
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KartikPrabhu lol! at some of the Hindi user names
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Loqi KartikPrabhu: tantek left you a message 3 hours ago: thanks for the heads-up. cleared up.
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tantek KartikPrabhu: my sanskrit is not (yet) good enough to read what they are writing
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KartikPrabhu "संतोष आम खाता हैं” means Santosh (a name) eats mangoes!
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tantek lol - they aren't even real usernames on the wiki
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tantek the usernames they are using to spam are simple ASCII
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tantek at some point I may be tempted to patch MediaWiki PHP to just disallow creation of User_talk: pages completely
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KartikPrabhu "ट्रांसलेट किया" means I have translated
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KartikPrabhu write, these bots seem to be simply making user pages. I wonder what the point of such spam is?
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KartikPrabhu right*
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tantek Google search results, as usual
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KartikPrabhu aah :|
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tantek they're trying to get people who search for "customer care / help" etc.
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tantek for those silos
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tantek to then call THEIR 888 800 #s to get scammed, phished etc.
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KartikPrabhu i would think Google search indexing is now smart enough to not give them too many "search points"
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tantek if you try searching, you'll find the spammers have successfully spammed many forums / wikis out there
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tantek no they spam existing forums/wikis that have HIGH search points on their domains
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tantek so then a new page on such a site pops right up to the top of search results
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KartikPrabhu yeah, makes sense I suppose
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gRegorLove tantek: You could put the same restriction on User talk pages as on User pages. I still can't create a User page, apparently based on some edit threshold
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gRegorLove Or maybe it's just locked. I've made a fair number of edits
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KartikPrabhu gRegorLove: maybe you should stop edit spamming ;)
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gRegorLove It's not spam! I'm really a Nigerian prince!
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KartikPrabhu gRegorLove: I guess you owe me a lot of money that you promised in that email!
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tantek no you cannot put the same restriction on User talk pages as User pages - I checked, MediaWiki does not support that particular permissions granularity
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tantek I mean otherwise I would have done so, instead that's why I'm considering patching the actual MediaWiki PHP
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@kings13y @andyhedges Nah.. it needs microformats.. like massive microformat adoption... Fo'sho.. ? (twitter.com/_/status/866735677928607745)
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tantek wat
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schmarty haha
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Loqi rofl
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@LeaVerou @kevinmarks @csarven @dissolve333 @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf @t @microformats Mavo's use of propert… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866737609665589249 (twitter.com/_/status/866737609665589249)
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@LeaVerou @csarven @kevinmarks @dissolve333 @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf @t @microformats Who said you can't sp… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866737847440691200 (twitter.com/_/status/866737847440691200)
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@csarven @LeaVerou @kevinmarks @dissolve333 @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf @t @microformats Care to show me a st… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866737942768869376 (twitter.com/_/status/866737942768869376)
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@LeaVerou @csarven @kevinmarks @dissolve333 @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf @t @microformats No, I have better thi… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866739004112347138 (twitter.com/_/status/866739004112347138)
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KartikPrabhu reads some of that thread and closes tab
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ben_thatmustbeme yeah, its really just not worth it
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KartikPrabhu I do like this reply: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866739004112347138
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Loqi [@LeaVerou] @csarven @kevinmarks @dissolve333 @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf @t @microformats No, I have better things to do w my time than semweb wanking. I told you what the model supports. If RDFa parsers are broken, not my fault.
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gRegorLove Hah
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gRegorLove Some good came of it: https://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/RDFa_1.1._Errata#Mischaracterises_Microformats_by_referring_to_many_years_old_spec
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@LeaVerou @csarven @kevinmarks @dissolve333 @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf @t @microformats Instead of expecting… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866759850730160130 (twitter.com/_/status/866759850730160130)
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@LeaVerou @csarven @kevinmarks @dissolve333 @meganzlock @matthewhagopian @frontendconf @t @microformats This is what's wrong… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866760326192271360 (twitter.com/_/status/866760326192271360)
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gRegorLove Can we get this on a microformats shirt? https://twitter.com/kings13y/status/866735677928607745
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Loqi [@kings13y] @andyhedges Nah.. it needs microformats.. like massive microformat adoption... Fo'sho.. ?
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@Noith_CA hentry （マークアップ: http://microformats.org） 構造化データエラー が出たときの対処方法 http://column.noith.com/hentry-error/ (twitter.com/_/status/866794935558717440)