#microformats 2017-06-19

2017-06-19 UTC
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@jorgessf31 The Board Of The USA Has To hReview The File, Brown Verse The A Corn, Located In The SF FBI Headquarters (twitter.com/_/status/876829367128571905)
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sknebel tantek: spam http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=operator-phone-tests-fr&diff=66429&oldid=33990&rcid=103260
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Loqi operator-phone-tests-fr
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tantek sigh
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sknebel tantek: ^^^ active spammer
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tantek on it
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tantek sknebel gRegorLove ben_thatmustbeme Zegnat since you all have been fairly active here recently, would you like author privs on the microformats.org blog so you can POSSE microformats-related articles from your personal site?
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tantek e.g. like what barnabywalters did
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tantek tomorrow is the 12th birthday of microformats.org!
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ben_thatmustbeme i'm not much of an article writer
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tantek I think it would be great to get a series of short articles from various authors
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ben_thatmustbeme or at least not much good at it
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme: if you write a short note, I'm happy to help out with a name for the article :)
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gRegorLove Hmm. The only thing I can think of being comfortable writing for the blog would be release announcements for php-mf2
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tantek here's the scope: What is new and meaningful to you in the world of microformats in the past year?
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Zegnat Oh that could be interesting! I would be willing to write a short article, though I wouldn’t know what about yet
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gRegorLove I'd welcome suggestions for articles to write
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ben_thatmustbeme i'd do it once my site is up though, sure
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tantek like literally brainstorm for maybe 15 minutes with what comes to mind, e.g. 1 or more of specific microformats, properties, parser implementations, test suite, parsing spec, site deployments, new user features you got working with microformats
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tantek gRegorLove: how about what is new in php-mf2 since a year ago? a summary of that would be great and why it matters
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tantek (what php-mf2 is being used for etc.)
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme: ok to PESOS too if you'd like to just blog something short on microformats.org first before your site is up
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ben_thatmustbeme really should have done one on ruby-microformats v3
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tantek thinking sometime tomorrow as a day to post
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme: you still can! that's a pretty big deal in the past year!
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ben_thatmustbeme there is that, getting mf2 in to a bunch more social applications (mastodon, friendica, hubzilla, pump.io)
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tantek wow that's huge too
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme: yes, just write a sentence or two about each of those (maybe 2-4 para total) and I'll happily review and suggest a name for your mini-article :)
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ben_thatmustbeme i sort of want to put out a call for people to file feedback on https://search.google.com/structured-data/testing-tool asking to support h-*
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tantek interesting. I have mixed feelings about that
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tantek right now all the spammers are dumping junk into whatever google recommends (e.g. schema JSONLD)
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tantek which means you actually get higher quality info by parsing mf2
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gRegorLove tantek: I'll try to put something together tonight
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tantek so if google recommends it it does two negative things: 1. lots of webspam pollution, and 2. puts google in a powerful position to dictate
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Zegnat I think I would like to write a thing to push the fact that microformats are still evolving, not at all static. E.g. h-event adapting h-entry properties so it can be its own “post” or my own work on pronouns. Also, microformats.io might warrant a post, but we may want to hold of on that until it has a few more examples written up?
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Zegnat See if I can come up with some other formats that have evolved lately
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ben_thatmustbeme i purchased h-feed.org if anyone has stuff to add on there
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tantek Zegnat a post on your work on pronouns would be awesome
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tantek microformats.io is definitely worth a post as it is! always good to post about site launches
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tantek you can always post again when a site is updated / expanded!
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Zegnat Well, we have some ideas for posts then. I’ll see if I can write something up for you before I head for bed
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tantek oh I forgot instructions
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tantek to unbottleneck :)
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sknebel tantek: currently don't have a good idea, but there might be some things coming up, so sure
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tantek sknebel - consider what you have made use of with microformats in the past year, e.g. on your site, what use-cases have they enabled / empowered?
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Zegnat To anyone with access: I just pushed a draft for a microformats.io post. 3 paragraphs. I would like to add another one about the hosted versions of the different parsers for testing, but am too tired to get the phrasing right. Feel free to read and edit
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tantek Zegnat can you share the preview URL?
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tantek sees if he can do that
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aaronpk i have a blog post i could POSSE to microformats.org! I didn't even think about that as a possibility
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Loqi aaronpk: ben_thatmustbeme left you a message 1 week ago: the parsing spec says a.m. and p.m must be case sensative, but the test suite disagrees with that, and actually so do I. I wrote ruby to be case incensative. what is the reasoning there?
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Loqi aaronpk: ben_thatmustbeme left you a message 1 week ago: nevermind, i misread it at the time and remembered that
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aaronpk https://aaronparecki.com/2016/12/17/8/owning-my-reviews
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Why Microformats? Owning My Reviews
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Zegnat I wasn’t sure what that one was? I haven’t used WP in years.
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Zegnat I thought maybe the permalink would just work for logged in people, but it gave me a 404
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aaronpk is that an appropriate article?
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aaronpk or is it too personal?
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tantek aaronpk, see #microformats. we've been discussing doing a bunch of short guest blog posts for the 12th birthday of microformats.org (tomorrow)
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aaronpk oh as a series?
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tantek more like a collection :)
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tantek (unordered / undependent)
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aaronpk i thought this was a general call-out for more participation
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tantek no this was for tomorrow in particular
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aaronpk aha
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tantek however once people can author, then yes, such POSSEing is going to be more greatly encouraged
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tantek as to your questions (and I see now that we are in #microformats, that's funny)
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Zegnat The microformats.io one I just drafted is more like a semi-announcement than a guest post I realise now
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tantek (Zegnat that's great too!)
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tantek 1. is it too personal? no. your post is a great use of personal anecdote to illuminate larger points about microformats and other efforts.
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tantek 2. is it an appropriate article. definitely
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Zegnat I’ll see if I can write a more personal note on my relation with microformats too, as more of a guest blog. That’ll have to happen tomorrow then. Good night all!
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tantek zegnat great!
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tantek aaronpk, since your reviews article is from 6 months ago, it may look a bit odd as such along delayed POSSE.
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tantek however, you could still cross-post it, like now, with maybe a short extra paragraph at the top providing that explicit context e.g. "I posted this on my own blog ~6 months ago, and I'm reblogging it on microformats.org because in subsequent conversations I've had with people I've learned it has broader applicability." etc. something like that
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tantek and you could even do that like today - that doesn't have to be a 12th bday post
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tantek aaronpk, another option to consider is subsetting your article on the more microformats positive aspects and maybe editing out the critiques of google / schema etc., noting that the full research / details are available on your site for anyone that wants them
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aaronpk i like that idea
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tantek (I don't know if that is possible for the article, but maybe worth a shot, would also help make it shorter)
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tantek (in the context of microformats.org)
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@e_punctatus @PoulpyWP Ça c'est la jouer petit bras... On devrait pouvoir aller plus loin que les microformats / microdonnées de nos jours, non ? (twitter.com/_/status/876915140217765888)
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tantek if there's anyone else here who would like to write a guest post for tomorrow 2017-06-20 microformats 12th anniversary, please speak up!
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tantek in particular if there's folks here who actively use WordPress (GWG? pfefferle? [chrisaldrich] [miklb]) - would be great to get your personal update on microformats improvements / impacts that you've seen or experienced or helped build in the past year
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tantek to be clear, also good to document challenges encountered in this year
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GWG Many things are a challenge
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