#microformats 2017-07-31

2017-07-31 UTC
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@ErichDuft1 Microformats https://alphanumeric222.wordpress.com/2017/07/31/microformats/ (twitter.com/_/status/891823152904404993)
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gRegorLove One thing about https://github.com/tommorris/mf2py/issues/75 raised by the microformats-parsing #11 is when a classic property and root appear inside an mf2 root, should both be ignored, or only the property? I think I treated it like both should be ignored in php-mf2 and had a good reason for that, but I don't remember it offhand.
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Loqi [aaronpk] #75 Backcompat conflict
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gRegorLove In https://aaronparecki.com/2016/12/15/16/dropvox the 'reviewer vcard' is ignored entirely because 'reviewer' is an mf1 property inside mf2.
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Dropvox
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gRegorLove The alternative is that the vcard still be parsed with backcompat and added as a child.
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sknebel gRegorLove: from the parsing specification, a parser currently parsing an mf2 microformat root isn't even supposed to look for backcompat property names
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sknebel " if parsing a backcompat root, parse child element class name(s) for backcompat properties" " else parse a child element class for property class name(s) "p-*,u-*,dt-*,e-*" "
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gRegorLove Correct. The question is whether it should still parse the 'vcard'
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gRegorLove Since it's on the same element as the mf1 property.
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sknebel if it isn't aware of the mf1 property, it can't make a difference between it being there and not (again, from my current interpretation of the wording of the spec)?
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sknebel That wording could be changed of course
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gRegorLove As worded now, I think it should, even though it appearing as a child object is not what the publisher intended. Seems to serve as a warning almost, "you didn't fully upgrade your mf1 to mf2, that's why h-card is a child object, not on the author property"
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gRegorLove Sorry, didn't quite follow that?
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sknebel same view as you on the current spec. Since it doesn't parse for the mf1 property when in an MF2 root, it has to treat it as a child
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gRegorLove e.g. Adding "p-author h-card" to "reviewer vcard" gives the expected results: https://php.microformats.io/?id=20170731154153048
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gRegorLove So I'll have to re-visit backcompat in php-mf2 a bit, try to figure out why I ignored the vcard there
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sknebel I think aaronpk intentionally left the mf2 properties out since the author is already covered by authorship rules?
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gRegorLove Yeah, he has a u-author property in there
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gRegorLove It's not technically causing any problems currently, that I'm aware of, but backcompat isn't following the spec as worded precisely, apparently. It should have a child h-card there, like the mf2py parser has
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sknebel nice to see that we all agree on the interpretation of the spec at least
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sknebel related issue: php-mf2 doesn't allow backcompat roots in mf2 properties: http://php.microformats.io/?id=20170731154747999 (p-author is not a nested h-card) . all other parsers (and my reading of the spec) allow that
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gRegorLove I think my main point of confusion is "parse a child element for microformats (recurse)" -- is that supposed to start at the last property element parsed, or at the mf2 root? Probably the latter.
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gRegorLove Scratch that. Poorly worded on my part. I get it.
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sinfo209 edited /code-tools () "(-1637) http://www.pcsysteam.blogspot.com" (view diff)
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gRegorLove tantek: spam ^
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tantek sigh
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Loqi tantek: gRegorLove left you a message 3 days, 22 hours ago: spammers CaitliMie (2014!) and Vedder8673 on realestate-propertydetail
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tantek edited /code-tools (+1637) "Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/Sinfo209|Sinfo209]] ([[User talk:Sinfo209|Talk]]) to last version by [[User:Benthatmustbeme|Benthatmustbeme]]" (view diff)
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tantek edited /Special:Log/block () "blocked [[User:Sinfo209]] with an expiry time of infinite (account creation disabled): Spamming links to external sites" (view diff)
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tantek edited /Special:Log/block () "blocked [[User:Vedder8673]] with an expiry time of infinite (account creation disabled): Spamming links to external sites: obvious attempt to spam keyword links" (view diff)
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tantek gRegorLove++ thanks for the heads-up and cleanup of the realestate page
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Loqi gregorlove has 13 karma in this channel (177 overall)
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tantek now lets see how long it takes Google to take down that blogspot :P
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gRegorLove tantek: Did you catch the first username in that tell? CaitliMie spammed as well, though in 2014
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tantek apparently \ "CaitliMie" is already blocked \
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gRegorLove Cool
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tantek by me in 2015 but somehow I didn't get the rollback (or maybe it failed at the time and I didn't notice)
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