#microformats 2017-08-13

2017-08-13 UTC
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jonnybarnes what do people think of https://github.com/aaronpk/OwnYourSwarm/issues/29#issuecomment-322036908
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Loqi [jonnybarnes] `<span class="p-checked-in-by h-card">`? Also, just because ownyourswarm provides the information doesn’t mean everyone has to display it on their own site?
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Zegnat If person X checks in person A somewhere, does it mean they are there together?
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jonnybarnes it does on Swarm
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jonnybarnes You check yourself in somewhere, and you can add a friend as well
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Zegnat That should just be a https://indieweb.org/person-tag then, right? The person doing the check-in is the author of the check-in, then person tags for everyone that gets checked-in with them
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jonnybarnes so if use OwnYourSwarm, do I make them the author of the checkin? then me a person-tag?
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jonnybarnes I can’t do that with my current website code
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jonnybarnes or do you mean say “checked in by” and then a normal person-tag
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Zegnat I think the person who is doing the check-in should be listed as author
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jonnybarnes hmmm, so then the question is how does ownourswarm mark that up to post to a micropub endpoint
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Zegnat What I am thinking is that OYS should list the person who created the check-in as author on the object it submits to you. How you then handle that is up to you. But that sounds like the most accurate description of Swarm’s data.
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Zegnat jonnybarnes: https://github.com/aaronpk/OwnYourSwarm/issues/29#issuecomment-322036908
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Loqi [jonnybarnes] `<span class="p-checked-in-by h-card">`? Also, just because ownyourswarm provides the information doesn’t mean everyone has to display it on their own site?
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Zegnat Woops, I mean https://github.com/aaronpk/OwnYourSwarm/issues/29#issuecomment-322038497
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Loqi [Zegnat] Summing up my points from the chat, note that I have no stake in the game as I do not use Swarm. I would expect whoever did the actual checking in on Swarm to be listed as the author on the `h-entry` submitted to the Micropub endpoint. People they...
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Zegnat Did that make sense, jonnybarnes?
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jonnybarnes yeah it makes sense
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Zegnat theoretically, on the implementation end, you could then handle it the same as any site sending you a webmention where they have checked you in.
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aaronpk This discussion sounds a little too much like markup before design
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sebsel What would "design" be in this case?
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sebsel The way it works?
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sebsel I think the trap is here, that we need to come up with a Microformat, because we use Micropub, which uses the same vocab. Is it okay to put vocab in Micropub, if it's not used in Microformats?
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aaronpk Literal design
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aaronpk how it looks in the end on your site
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aaronpk start there then find the appropriate microformats to describe it then we can use it in Micropub
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sebsel Ah, yeah, that's what we had in our earlier discussion
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tantek aaronpk++
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sebsel I have no idea how, and IF I want that.
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Zegnat The mf I posted there would be how I would implement it, I think. Would also be how I would implement something like Facebook’s wall posts. They are other people writing into a feed of mine, but they are the primary author. But yeah, that was just my view on it as an outsider. Will be interesting to see how you would want it marked up on your sites
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Zegnat .
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tantek Zegnat how do you know how you would implement it, if you don't know how you want it to look?
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Zegnat I would go with text posts, following the design for my new activity feed. Which would be:
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Zegnat “I checked in at Foo” or “Alice checked me in at Foo”. In the second example “Alice” would be marked up as u-author.
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tantek yeah that's definitely more an #indieweb question to figure out as a scenario, maybe #indieweb-dev for technical details
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