#microformats 2018-02-25

2018-02-25 UTC
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KartikPrabhu while parsing attributes for propreties http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing#parse_an_element_for_properties (e.g. getting the href of <a> for a u-url) if the attribute is a blank string it should still count as found yes?
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Loqi [Tantek Çelik] microformats2 parsing specification
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KartikPrabhu asking since mf2py is a bit overzealous and rejects empty string values
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KartikPrabhu long standing bug from 2014 https://github.com/kartikprabhu/mf2py/issues/46
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Loqi [kartikprabhu] #46 Parse blank href and src properly to got to current page
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KartikPrabhu tantek: ping ^^ since you might have a quick answer
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tantek in short, yes, though I'd be interested in seeing real world examples to verify that we are doing the right thing
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Loqi tantek: sknebel left you a message 2 days, 15 hours ago: microformats wiki captcha is showing warning that the recaptcha v1 API will shutdown 2018-03-18
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tantek ouch
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KartikPrabhu tantek: see example link mentioned in the issue https://github.com/kartikprabhu/mf2py/issues/46
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Loqi [kartikprabhu] #46 Parse blank href and src properly to got to current page
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KartikPrabhu the link uses href="" to denote u-url and u-uid but mf2py rejects those blank values
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KartikPrabhu borwsers though send href="" to current page URL
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tantek good example
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tantek and makes sense
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KartikPrabhu ok so will fix mf2py to never reject explicitly authored blank values
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tantek KartikPrabhu: I myself am attempting to use it on my home page with <a class="u-url u-uid" rel="author" href=""></a>
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KartikPrabhu cool, so this definitely needs to be fixed
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tantek yes
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tantek do we have a test case?
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tantek to check other parsers?
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tantek php etc
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KartikPrabhu https://joskar.se/en/2014/exam-weeks-and-comments-on-the-side or I can make a simple example
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Loqi [Johnny Oskarsson] Exam weeks and comments on the side
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KartikPrabhu tantek: https://github.com/kartikprabhu/mf2py/issues/46#issuecomment-368272838 simple example
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Loqi [kartikprabhu] Simple example ## HTML ``` html <html> <head> <base href="http://example.com"> </head> <body> <article class="h-entry"> <a class="u-url" href="">text</a> </article> </body> </html> ``` ## Current output ``` json "items": [ ...
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KartikPrabhu woah there Loqi
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tantek right
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aaronpk Pretty sure I use href="" on my site for my author url in posts
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KartikPrabhu yeah seems like explicitly authored blank properties should be allowed. fixing in mf2py currently
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KartikPrabhu for value-class-patter in date and time parsing http://microformats.org/wiki/value-class-pattern#Date_and_time_parsing does "innertext" mean the same as textContent elsewhere i.e. textContent dropping <style> and <script>? What about substituting img with alt and src ?
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KartikPrabhu ok fixed blank attributes in mf2py now
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KartikPrabhu enough python for today!
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tantek wow lots of chat last two days
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tantek for the parser and the h-entry questions / suggestions the best thing to do is probably to file issues for them, so we can track threads on each
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KartikPrabhu ok
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tantek (I didn't see any that had obvious answers, or even if they do, it's likely worth adding to an FAQ, and keeping an issue open can be a reminder to do that)
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tantek edited /Special:Log/block () "blocked [[User:HashGains Mining]] with an expiry time of infinite (account creation disabled): Removing content from pages: spam" (view diff)
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tantek ^^^ why "hash" has a bad reputation mixed up with (obv blockchain related) "mining"
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[kevinmarks] They already tainted "crypto", now "hash" as well?
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sknebel FWIW, a test-case for empty properties has been submitted to the microformats test collection, but I never got any feedback on it, nor was it merged
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Zegnat Empty src and href should be supported no matter other empty attributes (alt/title/whatever), since an empty string is a valid relative URL.
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KartikPrabhu anyone wants to take a shot at this https://github.com/microformats/microformats2-parsing/issues/20
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Loqi [kartikprabhu] #20 innertext in value-class-pattern needs clarification
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Zegnat not me!
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Zegnat ;)
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KartikPrabhu lol
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Zegnat Note that innerText does have a meaning: https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/dom.html#the-innertext-idl-attribute
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Zegnat In fact, that innerText algo may or may not also be something to consider for https://github.com/microformats/microformats2-parsing/issues/15
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Loqi [Zegnat] #15 What should mf2 textContent parsing result in? User expectation vs. DOM specification.
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KartikPrabhu that depends a lot on the styles in CSS too for instance "'display' property is not 'none':"
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Zegnat Yes, for that you may have to assume the default display value per element.
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Zegnat It would be a big algo to write up
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KartikPrabhu unless the use-case does not need that
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KartikPrabhu the goal is to sanely parse value-class-pattern for dates
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Zegnat E.g. aaronpk is basically already saying he expects an extra line break to replace paragraphs, in #15. So that’s already 1 element that needs special casing for textContent/innertext.
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Zegnat Aaaah. Dates. Yes. That’s a double “not me!” from me. I at one point started to try and rewrite the vcp date parsing completely, in mf2 terms, but ran into time constraint.
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KartikPrabhu yeah date parsing is pretty annoying. I don't understand even half of the code in mf2py that does this, no idea how kylewm figured it out!
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Zegnat I would almost want to take a virtual HWC some day and just sit down to talk it through from spec. It is dense.
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Zegnat A thing some people may like, not sure anyone made one before, JSON Schema for a microformat: https://gist.github.com/Zegnat/65ed9a9fb0546fb8c4aa0c0b790b8a40
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Zegnat Possibly incomplete.
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Zegnat Was working on it so I could do quick and easy validation on Micropub payloads
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