#microformats 2018-03-10

2018-03-10 UTC
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gRegorLove Hmm, so xRay requires an h-entry have a URL or else it just doesn't return anything?
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gRegorLove Ah, only when it's in an h-feed
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gRegorLove Shouldn't it return them with a blank url property?
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gRegorLove (Not that I'm opposed to the idea of the parser indicating if it was backcompat. Just curious.)
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aaronpk no, it's valid mf2 to have no url property afaik
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aaronpk the problem is an h-feed with a single h-entry that has no url is ambiguous
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aaronpk the page could be a feed or the page could be a permalink
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gRegorLove Think I found a php-mf2 bug while contriving some HTML. rel-bookmark URLs being put on the h-feed instead of h-entry: https://php.microformats.io/?id=20180310004131232
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gRegorLove Or... the fact it's not putting those h-entry as children? Heh.
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gRegorLove Looks right on dev version though: http://pin13.net/mf2-dev/?id=20180310004652495
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gRegorLove aaronpk: even with rel=bookmark on that example^, xray is returning no items for me (on xray.p3k.io)
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gRegorLove Oh, probably not using latest php-mf2
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aaronpk xray.p3k.io isn't updated yet
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aaronpk I should make an xray-dev maybe
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aaronpk Or maybe we should just do the release :-)
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Loqi I agree
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aaronpk Loqi is eager to get the new parser too
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KartikPrabhu yes php needs to catch up now ;)
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gRegorLove Still winning on issues count though ;)
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@cleverdevil Started working on a JSON Schema for microformats2 about a week ago. Posted the first version on GitHub tonight – https://github.com/cleverdevil/microformats2 – Feedback welcome! #indieweb #microformats2 (twitter.com/_/status/972336503698460672)
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KartikPrabhu ha! https://snarfed.org/2018-03-09_backcompat-mf2py-parallel-transport#comment-2618809
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Loqi Kartik Prabhu
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KartikPrabhu !tell snarfed see: https://snarfed.org/2018-03-09_backcompat-mf2py-parallel-transport#comment-2618809 ;)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi Kartik Prabhu
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sknebel aaronpk: I think I'd prefer if extra information like "compat root yes/no" would be put in extra fields of the object, then consumers only looking at the specified ones (type, properties) would be safe from potential confusion. e.g. allow underscore-prefixed parser-specific extra fields or something
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aaronpk True
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sknebel I guess this would be a bit annoying if you wanted to annotate individual properties
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sknebel now that I think about it again
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sknebel but even then you could make a duplicate property tree or something, and I don't have a use case handy right now
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sknebel sounds like it'd be worth a spec issue
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aaronpk Individual properties can't be backcompat without the parent object also
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sknebel sure, but I think a general way of doing parser-specific extensions like this would be useful
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sknebel could of course also change the spec to expose the backcompat info
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sknebel (I understood this as "might extend the PHP parser like this", not as a general feature request, but that might have been misinterpreting it)
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@asalsman Good morning. I’m learning about microformats for event based objects in HTML. How’s your Saturday morning? (twitter.com/_/status/972482924435197957)
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[kevinmarks] I have used the python backcompat structure to scrape other sites. BBC recipes particularly
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sknebel KartikPrabhu++ again for digging through mf2py issues
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@bloommarketing Bing has confirmed support for JSON-LD formatted http://Schema.org markup http://ow.ly/j1AX30iN9d5 #bing #microformats (twitter.com/_/status/972562985993424896)
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gRegorLove https://github.com/indieweb/php-mf2/issues/116 is a quick fix so making a PR currently
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Loqi [gRegorLove] #116 Fix hReview backcompat for summary property
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gRegorLove php55 took a long time then failed, think it's something with Travis CI? https://travis-ci.org/indieweb/php-mf2/builds/351795538
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sknebel yeah. repo admins should have a button to mash to re-run the test
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