#microformats 2018-03-09

2018-03-09 UTC
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GWG aaronpk: I wasn't taking advantage of it. Many WordPress themes use rel="bookmark". But I may have to fix it.
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aaronpk use for what?
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aaronpk I can't think of a case where it makes sense to have rel=bookmark to a permalink on your own site
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GWG aaronpk: I meant, I forked a stock WordPress theme and never fixed it
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GWG I made a lot of fixes, but I always find more.
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GWG aaronpk: Is pin13.net using the latest version of php-mf2?
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aaronpk this one is: https://pin13.net/mf2-dev/
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GWG I want to see what else I probably should fix
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GWG aaronpk: Anything else you noticed?
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GWG I'm working on fixing it before I push it live.
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aaronpk not yet
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GWG Maybe I need a MF2 consultant.
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GWG aaronpk: Fixed and pushed.
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GWG I can't vouch for anyone who used that code as the basis for something though
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aaronpk great! hopefully these show up better now
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GWG aaronpk: Nice to know I'm part of someone's feed
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[kevinmarks] The rel=bookmark is the standard for the permalink of the post. It is defined to have a non page scope by html5 based on existing usage.
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[kevinmarks] https://www.w3.org/TR/2014/REC-html5-20141028/links.html#link-type-bookmark
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[kevinmarks] If you use <article> for your posts
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KartikPrabhu so rel-bookmark is now like u-uid?
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Zegnat It is u-url, see e.g. http://microformats.org/wiki/h-entry#Parser_Compatibility
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Loqi [Tantek Çelik] h-entry is a simple, open format for episodic or datestamped content on the web. h-entry is often used with content intended to be syndicated, e.g. blog posts. h-entry is one of several open microformat standards suitable for embedding data in HTML. ...
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Zegnat In back compat parsing that is.
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aaronpk oh, never knew that
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KartikPrabhu is almost done updating mf2py to do better backcompat!
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sknebel woah
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sknebel KartikPrabhu++
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Loqi kartikprabhu has 13 karma in this channel (176 overall)
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KartikPrabhu now writing tests
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KartikPrabhu some older tests are wrong as no implied properties for mf1 parsing
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aaronpk I kind of wish the parser would tell me whether something was a backcompat parsed result or real mf2
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: use-case?
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KartikPrabhu btw https://github.com/kartikprabhu/mf2py has better backcompat parsing now!
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Loqi [kartikprabhu] mf2py: mf2 parser in python (this is an experimental fork)
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aaronpk I got a webmention from a wordpress permalink that has hfeed with a single hentry
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aaronpk xray couldn't find anything there because it looks like a feed, and the hentry had no url property so it didn't think it was a post permalink
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KartikPrabhu hmm
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aaronpk if I knew that was a backcompat result, I could say "if there is a backcompat hfeed with a single hentry, treat it as an h-entry"
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KartikPrabhu is this an issue on microformats?
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aaronpk it's an issue of bad mf1 markup on wordpress
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KartikPrabhu hmm
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aaronpk it's a microformats2 parser issue because without the knowledge that the thing i'm looking at was a backcompat format, I can't write that logic
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KartikPrabhu yeah I see
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aaronpk because there is a legitimate case for an h-feed to contain just one h-entry without the page being a permalink
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KartikPrabhu yup
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KartikPrabhu this one is tricky
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: maybe some property of a root class to indicate it was backcompat processed?
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aaronpk maybe? or "type": ["h-entry","hentry"]
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KartikPrabhu the parsing algo http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing#parse_an_element_for_class_microformats does say "keep track of whether the root class name(s) was from backcompat "
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Loqi [Tantek Çelik] microformats2 parsing specification
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@kartik_prabhu Took a solid 10 hours but better backcompat parsing rules in mf2py now https://github.com/kartikprabhu/mf2py #python #microformats #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/972251357443952640)