#microformats 2018-10-23

2018-10-23 UTC
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[dave] Argh. It’s physically painful how much I want to update the microformats wiki. [tantek] how much currency do I need to bribe you to update it from recaptcha v1 to something else, or switch to indieauth?
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aaronpk It's a chain reaction thing
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aaronpk tho conceivably someone could at least write a new recaptcha plugin for the current MW
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aaronpk the challenge there is getting a dev environment set up with an old enough PHP to run that old MW version to write the code
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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gRegorLove !tell aaronpk Can you update this plugin on the wiki? Should fix the Special:Version page https://github.com/gRegorLove/mediawiki-entry-title-override/commit/953d33d75c524c7624a9148925af50f08fe2fe50
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gregorlove edited /mediawiki-customization (+607) "/* How to */ list plugin details for upgrading, minimum MW version, and plugins we can get rid of" (view diff)
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gregorlove edited /mediawiki-customization (+69) "/* Upgrade MediaWiki */ Switch skin to Vector" (view diff)
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gregorlove edited /mediawiki-customization (+65) "/* Upgrade MediaWiki */ update PHP" (view diff)
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gRegorLove knock on wood, the upgrade process might not be too bad. A couple plugins won't be needed afterward.
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[tantek] aaronpk gregorlove it may be possible for admins to create user accounts for people
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[tantek] cc [dave]
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KartikPrabhu gRegorLove: might be good to first try at a subdomain? new.microformats.com
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KartikPrabhu s/com/org
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[tantek] dislikes "new" and "old" for naming, because eventually you have another one, and then is it new.new? or old.old?
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[tantek] to be blunt, "new" and "old" doesn't scale over time in naming/names so you should avoid them except for irony
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[tantek] [tantek] set the channel topic: http://microformats.org/wiki Logs: https://chat.indieweb.org/microformats and https://freenode.logbot.info/microformats
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Loqi Welcome to the microformats wiki!
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[Vincent] [tantek] how about “current” and “previous” (by date) ?
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[Vincent] as in previous projects ordered by date for archiving purposes.
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[tantek] [Vincent] for deployment purposes I've often seen use of "staging." or "dev." for prefixes
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[tantek] for domains
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[Rose] We have "foundation", "q" and then the main one (production) at work, or dev and production
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[Rose] (Foundation is the playground, Q is quality control)
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[tantek] Rose, good to hear actual examples like that. Perhaps consider adding that example to a section in https://indieweb.org/deployment ?
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[Rose] When I'm not at work if I remember I will :)
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[Vincent] [tantek] yup. We use exactly that in Gov.uk. .local -> .dev -> .staging -> .uk(live)
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[tantek] 🙂
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[frank] Local dev at work for me is oli.sto (just because I could), staging is olisto.int (internally)
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[jgmac1106] I use staging, production, and sandbox for my company.
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sknebel can we maybe turn off the captcha thing and require manual review of new accounts for a while?
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gRegorLove +1 for staging. I usually use that.
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