#microformats 2018-11-05

2018-11-05 UTC
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mblaney I think it's an interesting idea, look forward to hearing more about it as people come up with pros/cons.
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mblaney The answer to why not just use RDFa would be that mf2 is still a semantic layer on top of that format. It's an extension to bring it to the same level as class based mf2.
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[dave] [tonz] missed your message earlier but I also noticed the XFN page being blank. If you append /11 to the url it shows the 1.1 version of the spec. Not sure who to bug about it other than [tantek]
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sknebel yeah, its been like that for a long time now :/
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[kevinmarks] it is frustrating
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[kevinmarks] I'm tempted to recreate it from the internet archive
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[dave] Recreating it is nice, but that doesn’t solve the issue of all the links to the broken page, especially the one from its own domain root!
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gRegorLove Any notable mf2 publishers I should mention in my talk? I have WordPress, micro.blog, Mastodon
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KartikPrabhu gRegorLove: me ;)
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gRegorLove done :)
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KartikPrabhu \o/
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gRegorLove "and pioneer of microformats in physics, Kartik Prabhu" :)
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KartikPrabhu lol!!!
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[dave] I'm trying to decide if there should be `rel` tags on my indie web ring links or not. It feels like `rel="group"` would be fine on the link to the webring home page but I'm not sure if `friend` or `colleague` are exactly the right fit for the prev/next links
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[dave] The word 'cohort' keeps popping into my head
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KartikPrabhu [dave]: no need to make up rel values there are existing ones http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=existing-rel-values
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Loqi existing rel values
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[dave] @KartikPrabhu I was looking at that page but couldn't find one that seemed to make sense. Do you have any suggestions?
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[dave] It feels like an XFN thing but I don't know which one. Maybe 'contact' ?
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KartikPrabhu I would use whichever seems closest. If you make up your own properties then no one is going to know to look for it
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[dave] Right, I get that, but I’m not sure which one is closest, which is why I’m asking for help here instead of just picking one and committing it.
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KartikPrabhu [dave]: what is the intended meaning?
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KartikPrabhu if the only intention is to indicate the prev/next link the webring then rel-prev and rel-next should work
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[dave] The meaning is that they’re fellow group members, so somewhere between acquaintance and colleague I think, but some may be complete strangers. It doesn’t help in this instance that the prev/next links aren’t actually prev/next so much as random
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KartikPrabhu hmm. then I guess there is no need for extra markup since there isn't a consuming use-case yet
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gRegorLove There's earlier brainstorming about rel=group: http://microformats.org/wiki/group-brainstorming
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[jgmac1106] I want to combine, well I couldn't do it, what [sebsel] and @zegnat are working on and say a post is only available to people in a rel=group or a specific p-org in their h-card
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gRegorLove And a handful of previous examples: http://microformats.org/wiki/group-examples
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gRegorLove I don't think any of those are live though. Magnolia is dead, Flickr URL there doesn't seem to have it. Didn't check LinkedIn yet.
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gregorlove edited /group-examples (+340) "note former examples" (view diff)
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