#microformats 2019-05-29
2019-05-29 UTC
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[jgmac1106] and everyone who first starts with microformats incorrectly puts u-photo on everything and you see...the other one I see often is "u-author h-card"
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jamietanna[m] Reposting from #indieweb:
# jamietanna[m] I'm looking at making my h-feed better as for some post types it just has the URL and name
# jamietanna[m] However I'm wondering how to do this with long posts ie >500 words, with code snippets, pictures
# jamietanna[m] Would you recommend having the HTML present but hidden, or shown in full?
# [jgmac1106] You can include a p-summary some readers treat that like an excerpt, in what reader and with what post? Also note only few post types truly agreed upon: https://indieweb.org/posts#Kinds_of_Posts
# [jgmac1106] as long as your HTML comes out looking like those in the first group you are fine.
# [jgmac1106] have you run them through a parser yourself>
# [jgmac1106] that always helps me diagnose stuff
# [jgmac1106] Who is jaimetanna?
# [jgmac1106] what's your url?
# [jgmac1106] forgot no Loqi here
# [jgmac1106] @ jaimetanna choose from here https://indieweb.org/tools#Microformats_Parsers throw in your post types and look to see what doesn't fit the pattern of that first group of posts
# [jgmac1106] and not connected to microformats you could make a read more button out of CSS, a lot of discussion around truncating in the #dev channels always
# [jgmac1106] but often the reader controls how your posts are displayed best you can do is provide good semantic HTML (and then run through Granary for the xml for rss readers)
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# jamietanna[m] https://www.jvt.me is my URL, https://php.microformats.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jvt.meis the parsed source
# jamietanna[m] I've got `p-summary` in some things, but not all
# jamietanna[m] Yeah I'm just wondering how much detail I put into my h-feed, as most entries are just a URL and a title, not the full content to a reader, so the user may then need to click through to read it, instead of it all being in the reader
# [jgmac1106] here is mine but it's probably wrong: https://jgregorymcverry.com/articles.html
# [jgmac1106] I don't actually see an h-feed before your first h-entry
# jamietanna[m] Ah I've got the whole container as a h-feed
# jamietanna[m] Including the h-card above the post listings
# jamietanna[m] Thanks, that's good to see how you've done yours
# [jgmac1106] I see you talk about including an h-feed, nvm found it, but it is followed by your h-card
# [jgmac1106] but not p-name for the h-feed
# [jgmac1106] it is an optional property
# [jgmac1106] ha ha I figured it out
# [jgmac1106] in the link you posted above "is" was attached so I thought nothing was parsing as it came out blank
# [jgmac1106] and you have a p-name set to feed
# jamietanna[m] ah woops!
# [jgmac1106] maybe what you are thinking about is not your h-feed but what am I displaying on my front page, don't think there is a microformats issue at all
# jamietanna[m] Looking at https://php.microformats.io/?url=https://tantek.com Tantek has the full post content in both the browser-rendered HTML and the MF2 HTML
# [jgmac1106] I believe he splits those into multiple h-feeds on his page
# [jgmac1106] if you are going to have mainly short microposts I could see truncating articles for visual continuity, I keep some posts off my homepage
# [jgmac1106] meaning I still posts food and drinks but I do no display those unless you go to that page
# jamietanna[m] ah maybe then
# jamietanna[m] Yeah I have the issue that a fair few of my posts are long and I don't want them all over my home page
# jamietanna[m] truncating is a good shout
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# jamietanna[m] That sounds like a plan, I'll see if I can get that up tonight :)
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