#microformats 2019-06-01

2019-06-01 UTC
[eddie], KartikPrabhu, [jgmac1106], billbennettnz, nloadholtes, chrisaldrich, [tantek], twisted`, JonathanNeal, [frank], [kevinmarks786], [grantcodes] and tylergaw joined the channel
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tylergaw Did anyone else see this and the video? https://mobile.twitter.com/noopkat/status/1133834200937664512
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aaronpk Yes, sounded like "microformats" in the larger sense of the word, since they mentioned microdata as one of the examples of microformats
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[jgmac1106] I ignore any mention of data and SEO.. Never our crowd if it's about artificial traffic inflation
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[jgmac1106] Want SEO? Good content combined with community
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[tantek] generally agreed [jgmac1106] - we've learned that appealing to search engines is not a healthy sustainable use-case
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infominer[m] Yes, ive found google responds rapidly to quality content, and no seo besides twitter/og images
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infominer[m] As long as they have your site map, then they know how often you update, and are pretty sharp about it
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infominer[m] Im experiencing from the ground up
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infominer[m] Since march
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infominer[m] Now have hundreds of organic visits, and am increasing impressions rapidly
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[tantek] tylergaw, also the guy in the podcast, is simply wrong. microformats are still indexed by Google and used in their OneBox and special searches like Event Search: https://indieweb.org/Google_Search#Google_Supports_Microformats
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infominer[m] good link
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[jgmac1106] Yes Google's SEO advice now.. Have a title... Good structure, and a summary. For most of human literate history (only a blip in our timeline) we called this good writing not SEO
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infominer[m] haha! mobile, speed, accessibility, whitespace, readability... site structure... and all the technical optimizations, and making your site communicate w more of the web
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infominer[m] and connecting with different communities
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infominer[m] there are a lot of softish skills in there
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[jgmac1106] Yes. As I said. Good writing.
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infominer[m] well, in the old days we used 3-5 paragraphs a page and tiny type
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[jgmac1106] Do you know how many people still write in threes
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infominer[m] now it's big type, fonts, lotttat white space
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infominer[m] sure but not for seo value
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[jgmac1106] What is bootstrap but three paragraphs as col-md-4
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[tantek] maybe more relevant for the indieweb-chat channel? this is not really about microformats any more
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[jgmac1106] But why let one company define metadata and truth? Why I did microformats
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infominer[m] which to me, seo just means it needs to be readable by human and machine on a wide range of devices
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[jgmac1106] Agreed off-topix
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[jgmac1106] Oh infominer another community norm if someone "nudges" you to another channel you should follow
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infominer[m] oh yes? I just went back to work, hehe, didn't notice the invitation :)
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[jgmac1106] Sometimes it's community gardening but usually it's someone wanting off record in #chat or knowing others in a different channel are interested
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[jgmac1106] Myself signing off for the night
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