#microformats 2020-04-07

2020-04-07 UTC
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GWG gRegorLove: Did another run at it.
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[snarfed] evening all! i'm looking for an authoritative answer on how to determine an h-feed's author. should i use https://indieweb.org/authorship-spec, modified for h-feed instead of h-entry? or should i use https://indieweb.org/representative_h-card ?
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[snarfed] (the use case is converting to atom or RSS and populating their author elements)
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[snarfed] sknebel suggested authorship in https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2020-04-06#t1586210063508200 ; alexmingoia requested representative h-card in https://github.com/snarfed/granary/issues/195
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Loqi [sknebel] [snarfed]: I feel like the autorship algorithm (https://indieweb.org/authorship-spec) mostly applies. replace "h-entry" with "h-feed", skip step 4
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[snarfed] i'm happy to do either, just not sure where to find or ask for the "official" answer
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KartikPrabhu [snarfed]: I am not sure I have seen such a "official" recommendation. Do you have any data on which method "works" on current use-cases?
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[snarfed] eh only anecdotal. i could run them both on everything in indiemap, but i'm not going to go to that much effort
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KartikPrabhu hmmm
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KartikPrabhu fair enough
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gRegorLove [snarfed], there's https://indieweb.org/authorship-spec#feed_authorship though it's a couple years old and I haven't thought about it in a while :)
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gRegorLove though looks like it wouldn't find an author for indienews
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gRegorLove is a top-level <author> required in Atom? vs entry-level authors?
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gRegorLove https://validator.w3.org/feed/ validated it with `author` element in each `entry` and no top-level `author`
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[KevinMarks] No, in Atom several feed level attributes are treated as defaults for the entries overridden by the entry attributes.
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Zegnat https://indieweb.org/authorship-spec#Questions also had a proposal for extending it to feeds that I did, apparently
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[tantek] This sounds more IndieWeb-dev than microformats syntax / vocab related
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[snarfed] yup i asked there first
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[tantek] Finally saw 😂
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[snarfed] gRegorLove yeah i could just omit it, but ideally i'd try a bit harder than that 😁
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[snarfed] Zegnat++ thanks!
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GWG gRegorLove: Did you have a chance to look at the PR update? Just curious if I addressed everything
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gRegorLove Not yet
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GWG No problem
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