#microformats 2020-06-05

2020-06-05 UTC
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gRegorLove I'm going to test out the php-mf2 + test suite updates this weekend. I think pending that, we're almost ready to release a new version!
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gRegorLove Yep! https://github.com/microformats/php-mf2/milestone/4
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GWG gRegorLove: Yay
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Loqi does a happy dance!
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Zegnat gRegorLove amazing! Let me know if anything comes up, I should have time this weekend to tweak things immediately.
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Zegnat Also, after the merge of the tests, it’ll be much easier to review the vevent PR. As we can just run the tests without the PR, and with the PR, and see that there were no negative changes :)
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[schmarty] gRegorLove++
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Loqi gRegorLove has 5 karma in this channel over the last year (83 in all channels)
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willnorris Only very loosely related to the website migration discussion last week.... I bought microformats.dev when the .dev TLD first launched, and have just been redirecting it to microformats.io, which seems as good a thing to do with it as anything right now. But I'm also happy to give it to anyone in the microformats community that wants to actually do something with it.
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[schmarty] Nice. Thanks, willnorris!!
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[schmarty] Speaking of server stuff: aaronpk and jacky are we good to go for tomorrow?
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GWG [schmarty]: Will there be music?
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[schmarty] GWG: want to curate a stream-safe playlist for us? :)
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GWG [schmarty]: I could come and sing for you
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GWG My classic album...GWG sings the public domain
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GWG Such classics as...My Sweetheart went down with the Maine
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[schmarty] I can't decide if I want to request no songs about dying at sea (a downer (ooh phrasing)) or ONLY songs about dying at sea (hilarious)
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[schmarty] Anyway that can be a discussion for chat 😆
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[schmarty] My calendar is clear for tomorrow. I recall tantek bringing up the good point that we should make some checklists upfront so we know what done looks like
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aaronpk Yea! I am ready!
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[schmarty] I think that happened? I sound lazy. 😝
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aaronpk i drooped an etherpad link in here the other day
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aaronpk still needs some work but that can also be the first thing we do tomorrow
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[schmarty] Found it! Thank you!
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[schmarty] This list is very good!!
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aaronpk It's a start
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aaronpk also need to bring in the migration checklist that's on the wiki from last time
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sknebel plan for registering/spam protection on the wiki seems still open, even if its just a restricted thing at first
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aaronpk True, i guess the easy solution for now is using the updated captcha?
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aaronpk the main goal right now is to get it into a working state on the new server, with as little changes as possible
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Zegnat “using the updated captcha” - didn’t reCaptcha starting charging? (Something about that being the reason CloudFlare switched away from it?)
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aaronpk oh dear
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[schmarty] hCAPTCHA might be an option. i see some support for it in the ConfirmEdit plugin as of mid-april
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[schmarty] (not sure whether that means it's available for new account creation)
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[tantek] could the etherpad link be added to the event permalink page for easier discoverability?
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gRegorLove Hadn't heard of recaptcha charging. We're using v3 on a work project and it's free
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GWG Do we know what version of WP the blog part is?
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[tantek] GWG, the current blog?
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[tantek] let's take that to private chat
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GWG Yes
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GWG Okay
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gRegorLove Out of scope for the migration, but longer term I was wondering about moving the blog to a subdomain and the wiki being at / instead of /wiki
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[tantek] would rather not do a subdomain
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[tantek] blog permalinks *are* at a sub-path
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[tantek] as is the archive index: http://microformats.org/blog which could become the new home page for the blog, and just keep those links on the side
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[tantek] We've talked about moving the wiki to the root before as a whole
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[tantek] there wouldn't be that many pages that collided, and those we could manually create wiki pages for
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[tantek] that many *static pages
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jacky [schmarty]: yup!
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[schmarty] woo!
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[tantek] Instead of any CAPTCHA update/replacement, would it be too much to consider using IndieAuth instead?
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[tantek] gRegorLove++ it maybe out of the (required) scope for the migration, however I think you should still add your suggestion to the Etherpad, perhaps in an "Optional additions:" section?
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Loqi gRegorLove has 6 karma in this channel over the last year (84 in all channels)
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gRegorLove I wondered about IndieAuth too. Didn't want to suggest too many changes like that, but maybe... since we already have to update/switch out plugins, heh
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jacky gRegorLove: lol
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jacky yeah I don't know what the reqs for that are :)
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jacky but as we get in, I can def see it as something
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[tantek] I'd much rather add a dependency to a plugin we're more familiar with and already running on another domain (indieweb) than add a new dependency on a new plugin (plus CAPTCHA UX is horrible)
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aaronpk One of my goals is to change as little as possible in a migration
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aaronpk but since we know the captcha won’t work on the new server I’m open to alternatives for that
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gRegorLove why won't it work?
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[tantek] right that makes sense as a methodology and a specific instance
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aaronpk I can definitely set up the same indie login.com experience as indieweb.org
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[tantek] is there a goals/methodology section in the etherpad? that's worth capturin aaronpk
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aaronpk I just mean the existing captcha won’t work, so at that point we’re installing a new plugin of unknown stability
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gRegorLove ah, right
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[tantek] yeah especially since there is a lot of community overlap now between #microformats and #indieweb
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[tantek] I mean heck, could even stage the new migration at microformats.indieweb.org before switching DNS
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aaronpk It would be an interesting test of how effective it is at preventing spam, since the mid wiki is a higher value target
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aaronpk MF wiki
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aaronpk switching authentication systems means everyone would have a new user page, is that important?
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[tantek] I think that may be ok. We had a similar transition early on with the indieweb wiki
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jacky excited for this tbh :)
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[tantek] pinged Rohit and he’s added to the etherpad!
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jacky ah okay
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jacky that explains the main channel command
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