#microformats 2020-06-09

2020-06-09 UTC
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[pfefferle] [tantek] [aaronpk] should I talk to my employer because of sponsored hosting? https://www.ionos.com
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[tantek] oooh! pfefferle that would be great! I say sure! [aaronpk] WDYT?
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[pfefferle] [tantek] [aaronpk] can you send me some requirements for the hosting? Actual LAMP stack?
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[schmarty] [pfefferle] it's basically LAMP. ubuntu 20.04, nginx, php7.4, mysql. exact package details are on the staging-server etherpad: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/microformats-staging-server
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aaronpk you know, tbh it would work fine in a shared hosting environment too
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[pfefferle] Ok, I will see what I can do!
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RohitKhare +1 to asking ionos
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[KevinMarks] https://github.com/WICG/media-feeds/issues/30#issuecomment-641485253
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Loqi [beccahughes] @kevinmarks I would like to add this proposal to http://microformats.org/wiki/existing-rel-values but it seems like account creation on the website is having some issues (broken recaptcha). Please can you take a look?
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[tantek] KevinMarks did you point out that a site transition was in progress?
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jacky yup - that's the next comment :)
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[tantek] also the whole proposal is problematic in many ways 😔
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[KevinMarks] Yeah, I'm going to file some more issues. Though if they are found to expose YouTube recommendations to a user agent api that's kinda interesting
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KartikPrabhu lol! why is rel=media-feed better than rel=feed which was objected to already in the first comment?
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KartikPrabhu <insert xkcd about standards>
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[KevinMarks] I am trying to not be rude as the author has clearly been marinated in schema thinking for a while.
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[KevinMarks] We write standards in the imperative mood, and it's hard to know how to get there.
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[KevinMarks] http://www.diveintomark.link/2004/why-specs-matter
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KartikPrabhu "marinated in schema" lol!
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KartikPrabhu good punk rock song title
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jacky hmm
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[tantek] yeah my understanding is this spec might be the result of having been conditioned in a certain technocultural context
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[tantek] no malicious intent, more of an opportunity to walk through the broader context of feeds, media, standards, etc.
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[tantek] I now greatly dislike Mark's unnecessarily mean framing / analogies / metaphors in that post KevinMarks
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[tantek] I think we should actively not use them, and use others instead
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[tantek] I'm pretty convinced meanness (even "as a joke") is part of bullying which frankly is a tool of white supremacy that should be deliberately dismantled.
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[tantek] KevinMarks++ appreciate your kindness and patience with the media-feeds author
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Loqi KevinMarks has 2 karma in this channel over the last year (63 in all channels)
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[KevinMarks] Yes, I meant that a warning, trying avoid being an asshole or a moron.
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[KevinMarks] Though maybe https://highlightpoetry.com/ is being an asshole in Mark's sense
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Loqi [Kevin Marks] Highlight Poetry
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