#microformats 2020-06-08

2020-06-08 UTC
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[tantek] 17:00 the microformats.org server should be fully functional again
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[tantek] looks up and supersnappy to me
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KartikPrabhu Do we need analytics?
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KartikPrabhu need/want
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[tantek] for what use-case?
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[tantek] AFAIK we haven't checked them in years
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aaronpk the reason for having at least a count of monthly pageviews is to be able to approach sponsors
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[tantek] ah interesting
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[tantek] can't we get that much more accurately from server logs? instead of any JS embed?
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aaronpk probably less accurate from server logs
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aaronpk since there's a *ton* of crawlers
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aaronpk but yes, we *can* get it from server logs, we just need to set it up. there are some notes about alternatives to google analytics on the etherpad
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aaronpk speaking of sponsors, are there any high-profile websites that link to microformats.org that i can name drop?
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@arpit TIL there is a `rel="payment"` draft spec for podcasters. Not sure if any podcast player even supports this http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-payment (twitter.com/_/status/1270017680913969155)
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aaronpk is that not documented on that page??
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aaronpk it is
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aaronpk edited /rel-payment (+235) "/* Implementations */" (view diff)
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aaronpk edited /rel-payment (+199) "/* Implementations */ split out podcast players specifically" (view diff)
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aaronpk now i have to re-import the database again
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aaronpk lol
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@aaronpk ↩️ Been around for a while now! Check out the list at the bottom of that page http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-payment#Podcast_Players (twitter.com/_/status/1270020284267941888)
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[schmarty] lol aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 5 karma in this channel over the last year (228 in all channels)
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[schmarty] please excuse the maybe unnecessary recap here but i want to verify where we're at for next steps in the server move
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aaronpk I am waiting on getting traffic data about how many visitors the site gets in order to send an email to Linode about sponsoring
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[schmarty] in my mind it's: 1. make sure rohit (?) has access to the DNS config at mydomain.com 2. contact mediatemple (via rohit?) to see if they'll let us spin up a new sponsored instance to do our migration
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aaronpk and yes that
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[schmarty] 2-alternate. ^^ what aaronpk said about alternate sponsorship and needing data.
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aaronpk [tantek]: can you get in touch with Rohit about the media temple account?
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[tantek] Media Temple got acquired and the contact I had has long since left. The current sponsorship is operating on autopilot
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[tantek] I tried a while ago asking for an upgrade to https and got given the cost rather than a sponsorship upgrade
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[tantek] In terms of raw MT account access yes I and Rohit have that however that’s not really what you’re asking about
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aaronpk gotcha. yeah unless there's a fake credit card on file that we can use to create a new server, it'll require actually contacting MT
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aaronpk i tried through my MT account and it asked me for a payment method, but yours or rohit's might be different
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[tantek] and what I’m saying is I already did that years ago just to try to get https added and it didn’t go anywhere
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aaronpk the way the server is set up, adding https is not something they can do easily
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aaronpk it's a VPS, not shared hosting like dreamhost where they do everything for you
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[tantek] Hmm so it may still be worth trying to cold call contact them?
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aaronpk so if you want to try, the steps would be to click "add new service" at the top, then add a "DV Developer w/SSDs" server and see if you can get through the checkout process
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[schmarty] it sounds like this is a different type of ask, so it is worth asking (with the understanding that the MT sponsorship has reached the end"
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[schmarty] lol i started a parenthetical and closed a quote. not getting enough sleep. 😛
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aaronpk if it asks you for a card, then you could call them up and ask for a credit for that server somehow, letting them know that we'd be spinning down the other server within a month
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[tantek] There’s no credit card on the account no. So every change requires adding a form of payment so it’s not something that’ll work via any kind of UI
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aaronpk gotcha
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[tantek] This isn’t a fix it lowlevel kind of thing
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[tantek] This is a have a high level conversation with someone who has authority to change the sponsorship kind of thing
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[tantek] And then let them handle the low level details once they understand our needs
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[tantek] Rather than us directing low level details up front
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aaronpk well that's all above my pay grade
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[tantek] Question is whether that conversation would go any better with MT vs another sponsor which I believe is what you were talking about in the other thread
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aaronpk i can explore the Linode possibility, i just want to be able to quote them some rough traffic stats, so i need that number from GA somehow
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[tantek] Can you email that request (for what GA stats / access you need) and I can forward to emails of those who I think may have it?
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[tantek] I don’t want to translate between Slack and email for such a specific request
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aaronpk sure
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RohitKhare1 good afternoon — I have the google analytics numbers
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RohitKhare1 /nick rohitkhare
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RohitKhare1 Currently trying to find the mailman passwords to approve sending the >40Kb report to the list
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aaronpk thank you!
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aaronpk (the web interface isn't a proper IRC client, /nick doesn't work)
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RohitKhare1 /doh :)
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RohitKhare1 did you receive the email directly (rather than try to diagnose mailman just yet)
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aaronpk yep
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[tantek] RohitKhare I believe I still have the mailman pws if you want to let me know what needs to be approved. Is it just list moderation?
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RohitKhare1 just list moderation - surprised i didn't have it in my usual vault -prob on an older mac keychain
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RohitKhare1 anyway, not urgent, just held in the moderation queue.
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RohitKhare1 @aaronpk - added to GA
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[tantek] got it. I'll dig it up and approve
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RohitKhare1 Hey, I updated the DNS sections of the etherpad. No immediate actions needed?
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aaronpk next thing we need to do is figure out whether we can renew the MT sponsorship or get another sponsor for the site, not much to do until then
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@pfefferle /now & h-now #microformats #nownownow /cc @ctietze https://notiz.blog/2020/06/08/now-h-now/ (twitter.com/_/status/1270110880416612354)
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[tantek] RohitKhare, moderation managed.
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@perlnews CPAN: Web-Microformats2-0.511 (JMAC) - https://metacpan.org/release/JMAC/Web-Microformats2-0.511 (twitter.com/_/status/1270133964666105858)
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@cpan_new Web-Microformats2-0.511 by JMAC https://metacpan.org/release/JMAC/Web-Microformats2-0.511 (twitter.com/_/status/1270133785560899584)